I know that a lot of churches have this symptom. But I
would like to think that this group could hold to a
higher standard.

Suzy

--- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well said! By the by there's none of this in what
> church?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: November 19, 2004 11:50
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?
> 
> 
> > When I signed up for Truth talk I was under the
> > impression that we would be talking about the
> > Truth(God's Word). And we have done that a little.
> But
> > lately my inbox has been filled with fighting and
> > sarcastic remarks going back and forth to one
> another.
> >
> > I am saddened by this. Instead of focussing on
> God's
> > Word, there is arguing and tearing down. If we
> truly
> > are the body of Christ, we need to start acting
> like
> > it. Please stop the finger pointing. "You did
> this."
> > "No, I didn't." or "You meant this." "No, I
> didn't."
> >
> > Let's focus on God's Word! Let's edify each other
> like
> > Bill has commited himself to do. If what you say
> does
> > not build up, don't say it. If you disagree with
> > someone tell them with love not with sarcasm. This
> is
> > one I have been working on because I can be very
> > sarcastic. It was pointed out to me that sarcasm
> > usually tears people down and it is not funny to
> the
> > person on the receiving end no matter where they
> live.
> >
> > James tells us about the power of the tongue. We
> all
> > (I include myself) need to control our tongue.
> Chp. 3-
> >
> >
> > Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren,
> > knowing that as such we will incur a stricter
> > judgment. For we all stumble in many ways. If
> anyone
> > does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect
> man,
> > able to bridle the whole body as well. Now if we
> put
> > the bit into the horses' mouths so that they will
> obey
> > us, we direct their entire body as well. Look at
> the
> > ships also, though they are so great and are
> driven by
> > strong winds, are still directed by a very small
> > rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot
> desires.
> > So also the tongue is a small part of the body,
> and
> > yet it boasts of great things.
> >
> > See how great a forest is set aflame by such a
> small
> > fire! And the tongue is a fire, the very world of
> > iniquity; the tongue is set amoung our members as
> that
> > which defiles the entire body, and sets on fire
> the
> > course of our life, and is set on fire by hell.
> For
> > every species of beasts and birds, of reptiles and
> > creatures of the sea is tamed and has been tamed
> by
> > the human race. But no one can tame the tongue; it
> is
> > a restless evil and full of deadly poison. With it
> we
> > bless our Lord and Father and with it we curse
> men,
> > who have been made in the lieness of God; from the
> > same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My
> > brethren, these things ought not to be this way.
> Does
> > a fountain send out from the same opening both
> fresh
> > and bitter water? Can a fig tree, my brethren,
> produce
> > olives, or a vine produce figs? Nor can salt water
> > produce fresh.
> >
> > Who amoung you is wise and understanding? Let him
> show
> > by his good behavior his deeds the the gentleness
> of
> > wisdom. But if you have bitter jealousy and
> selfish
> > ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so
> lie
> > against the truth. The wisdom is not that which
> comes
> > down from above, but it is earthly, natural,
> demonic.
> > For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist,
> there
> > is disorder and every evil thing. But the wisdom
> from
> > above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle,
> > reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits,
> unwavering,
> > without hypocricy. And the seed whose fruit is
> > righteousness is sown in peace by those who make
> > peace.
> >
> > 1 Corinthians 10:1- If I speak with the tongues of
> men
> > and of angels, but do not have love, I have become
> a
> > noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
> >
> > Ephesians 4:29-5:2 - Let no unwholesome word
> proceed
> > from your mouth, but only such a word as is good
> for
> > edification according to the need of the moment,
> so
> > that it will give grace to those who hear. Do not
> > grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were
> sealed
> > for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and
> > wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away
> > from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one
> > another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other,
> just as
> > God in Christ also has forgiven you. Therefore be
> > imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in
> > love, just as Christ also loves you and gave
> Himself
> > up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a
> > fragrant aroma.
> >
> > Matthew 5:9- Blessed are the peacemakers for they
> > shall be called sons of God.
> >
> > I pray that the fighting and sarcasm will end. If
> not
> > Jonathan is right TT will cease to exist.
> >
> > Suzy
> >
> > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I believe that naught will come from further
> > > pursuance of this 'thread'. Beep Beep
> > >
> > > Let us press on to matters of greater import
> while
> > > awaiting the 'master builder's' forthcoming
> epistle.
> > > Beep Beep again
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: Judy Taylor
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: November 19, 2004 09:42
> > >   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?
> > >
> > >
> > >   jt: Thanks for the interpretation Izzy. I used
> to
> > > post more scripture but stopped because there
> was
> > > never any
> > >   response and it was a lot of work finding
> chapter
> > > and verse even though it is in my heart. If I
> see
> > > any interest I would be glad to go back to doing
> > > that.  I seem to recall a while back that  Lance
> > > told Bill Taylor I was knocking him out with
> them.
> > > Strange!!  My mind does not work along these
> lines
> > > and my battle is not with flesh and blood.
> > >
> > >   My question to Lance is:
> > >   1) You say Izzy is correct on the former and
> since
> > > "out of the abundance that fills the heart the
> mouth
> > > speaks" Why is your heart filled with Star Wars
> and
> 
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