Susan:I've said this previously but, not to you:

Believer + The Spirit of God + The Word of God = Truthtalk, = your church
and mine and all others, =diverse understandings of one and therefore many
things

Agree? Disagree?

Many simply cannot be moved what they have come to believe.

Lance
From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: November 19, 2004 15:13
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?


> Maybe I should have used the word hope instead. And a
> lot of my thinking came from an assumption made from
> the title of this forum (TT). I assumed that people on
> this forum wanted to put the bickering spirit aside
> and cling to the spirit of truth.
>
> Suzy
>
> --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Serious question: Why? I ask as I wouldn't think
> > that.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: November 19, 2004 14:40
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?
> >
> >
> > > I know that a lot of churches have this symptom.
> > But I
> > > would like to think that this group could hold to
> > a
> > > higher standard.
> > >
> > > Suzy
> > >
> > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well said! By the by there's none of this in
> > what
> > > > church?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: November 19, 2004 11:50
> > > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > When I signed up for Truth talk I was under
> > the
> > > > > impression that we would be talking about the
> > > > > Truth(God's Word). And we have done that a
> > little.
> > > > But
> > > > > lately my inbox has been filled with fighting
> > and
> > > > > sarcastic remarks going back and forth to one
> > > > another.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am saddened by this. Instead of focussing on
> > > > God's
> > > > > Word, there is arguing and tearing down. If we
> > > > truly
> > > > > are the body of Christ, we need to start
> > acting
> > > > like
> > > > > it. Please stop the finger pointing. "You did
> > > > this."
> > > > > "No, I didn't." or "You meant this." "No, I
> > > > didn't."
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's focus on God's Word! Let's edify each
> > other
> > > > like
> > > > > Bill has commited himself to do. If what you
> > say
> > > > does
> > > > > not build up, don't say it. If you disagree
> > with
> > > > > someone tell them with love not with sarcasm.
> > This
> > > > is
> > > > > one I have been working on because I can be
> > very
> > > > > sarcastic. It was pointed out to me that
> > sarcasm
> > > > > usually tears people down and it is not funny
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > person on the receiving end no matter where
> > they
> > > > live.
> > > > >
> > > > > James tells us about the power of the tongue.
> > We
> > > > all
> > > > > (I include myself) need to control our tongue.
> > > > Chp. 3-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let not many of you become teachers, my
> > brethren,
> > > > > knowing that as such we will incur a stricter
> > > > > judgment. For we all stumble in many ways. If
> > > > anyone
> > > > > does not stumble in what he says, he is a
> > perfect
> > > > man,
> > > > > able to bridle the whole body as well. Now if
> > we
> > > > put
> > > > > the bit into the horses' mouths so that they
> > will
> > > > obey
> > > > > us, we direct their entire body as well. Look
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > ships also, though they are so great and are
> > > > driven by
> > > > > strong winds, are still directed by a very
> > small
> > > > > rudder wherever the inclination of the pilot
> > > > desires.
> > > > > So also the tongue is a small part of the
> > body,
> > > > and
> > > > > yet it boasts of great things.
> > > > >
> > > > > See how great a forest is set aflame by such a
> > > > small
> > > > > fire! And the tongue is a fire, the very world
> > of
> > > > > iniquity; the tongue is set amoung our members
> > as
> > > > that
> > > > > which defiles the entire body, and sets on
> > fire
> > > > the
> > > > > course of our life, and is set on fire by
> > hell.
> > > > For
> > > > > every species of beasts and birds, of reptiles
> > and
> > > > > creatures of the sea is tamed and has been
> > tamed
> > > > by
> > > > > the human race. But no one can tame the
> > tongue; it
> > > > is
> > > > > a restless evil and full of deadly poison.
> > With it
> > > > we
> > > > > bless our Lord and Father and with it we curse
> > > > men,
> > > > > who have been made in the lieness of God; from
> > the
> > > > > same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My
> > > > > brethren, these things ought not to be this
> > way.
> > > > Does
> > > > > a fountain send out from the same opening both
> > > > fresh
> > > > > and bitter water? Can a fig tree, my brethren,
> > > > produce
> > > > > olives, or a vine produce figs? Nor can salt
> > water
> > > > > produce fresh.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who amoung you is wise and understanding? Let
> > him
> > > > show
> > > > > by his good behavior his deeds the the
> > gentleness
> > > > of
> > > > > wisdom. But if you have bitter jealousy and
> > > > selfish
> > > > > ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and
> > so
> > > > lie
> > > > > against the truth. The wisdom is not that
> > which
> > > > comes
> > > > > down from above, but it is earthly, natural,
> > > > demonic.
> > > > > For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist,
> > > > there
> > > > > is disorder and every evil thing. But the
> > wisdom
> > > > from
> > > > > above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle,
> > > > > reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits,
> > > > unwavering,
> > > > > without hypocricy. And the seed whose fruit is
> > > > > righteousness is sown in peace by those who
> > make
> > > > > peace.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 Corinthians 10:1- If I speak with the
> > tongues of
> > > > men
> > > > > and of angels, but do not have love, I have
> > become
> > > > a
> > > > > noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ephesians 4:29-5:2 - Let no unwholesome word
> > > > proceed
> > > > > from your mouth, but only such a word as is
> > good
> > > > for
> > > > > edification according to the need of the
> > moment,
> > > > so
> > > > > that it will give grace to those who hear. Do
> > not
> > > > > grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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