I think God would prefer the former.I believe the Holy Spirit of God to be, if you'll forgive the expression, a 'gentleman'.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: February 03, 2005 10:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On occupying antithetical positions > Open questions to all regarding street preaching: > > Would it be better for a stree preacher to 1) stand on a corner in SLC > during GC quitely speaking only to those who will listen, and cause none to > convert from this pagan religion, or 2) yell through a bulhorn, wave > underware, or whatever and cause one to convert? > > Which do you think God would prefer? > > I feel confident that many methods have been tried, and people generally > stick to what works best for them. > > Besides, one can never know when one little thing that one says is the > proverbial straw that causes another to question their beliefs enough to see > the truth. They may have heard the same thing 99 times before, and 100th > time it makes sense to them. What if there had been no preacher there to say > it that 100th time? We can never do or say enough. We must always say it > that 100th time. Or the 101st time. Or the 1001st time. > > Perry > > > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On occupying antithetical positions > >Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:11:43 -0500 > > > >Kevin says: 'They will not change by skilled reasoning.' Please describe > >the nature of the content of your own posts, Kevin. Are we witnessing the > >wisdom of God or, the wisdom of Kevin? If a Mormon I, I'd be quite unmoved. > >On the whole they (your arguments) are quite supercillious. > > From: Kevin Deegan > > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > Sent: February 03, 2005 07:58 > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On occupying antithetical positions > > > > > > They will not change by skilled reasoning. God's way is > > For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it > >pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. > > > > Try it Please God, get some saved > > It works, we have had many saved and join a local congregation in SLC > > > > > > Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > **note subject change** > > > > I'm aware of organizations who call themselves 'Ex-Mormons for Jesus.' > >I have audio lectures delivered by such persons. The circumstances > >underlying their 'change' are many and, varied. > > > > Are there organizations who call themselves 'Ex-evangelicals (now > >Mormon) for Jesus? Will someone tell us of them by name. I'd like to hear > >their 'story'. > > > > Do you all realize how unlikely it is, naturally speaking, that > >persons occupying a faith tradition antithetical to yours will ever leave > >it? My goodness, just look at the conversations BETWEEN 'professing' > >believers. Some put forward skilled and articulate arguments for > >...(whatever). When did you last see someone respond with, 'by jove I > >believe I'll change my mind on this!'? It hasn't happened and it ain't > >gonna happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kevin Deegan > > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > Sent: February 03, 2005 06:59 > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer in Evangelism > > > > > > The truth horns are for large crowds or areas with lots of Noise > > > > Did you see the presidents State of the Union address? > > Is that the only legitimate use of amplification? > > > > Free Speech carries with it the right to be heard. > > > > Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > G, > > > > My question to Blaine was in response to his knocking SP's, > >particularly > > those at the LDS GC and their methods. I thought it would be > >interesting to > > find out what he thinks would be the best way to evangelize > >Mormons. While > > sending out missionaries two by may two work in peoples homes, it > >is not > > practical in a public open-air setting. Dave brought up prayer and > > bullhorns. Prayer is not how the Bible tells us people come to > >faith. While > > I believe tht praying for those you wish to come to faith is > >useful, Paul > > tells us that preaching is the way people hear the word of God. > >Paul made > > good on this himself, as did most of the Aposles. As for > >bullhorns, I must > > agree that if someone came into my house with a bullhorn and began > >to > > preach, I would not like it. But, if they needed to be heard over > >background > > noise, hecklers, or other noise in an outdoor setting, I think > >bullhorns are > > a good tool. > > > > Perry > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer in Evangelism > > >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:28:38 -0700 > > > > > > > > >there are *evangelical approaches to evangelizing* on which not > >all > > >evangelicals are agreeing, so what is *evangelical evangelizing*? > > > > > >..also, how many street preachers involved in the SLC events > >discussed on > > >TT are evangelical/s? > > > > > >e.g., what about Kevin's position on 'evangelicals'; maybe he > >prefers to > > >be understood in a non-evangelical category > > > > > >..well, ftr perhaps Perry would delve into the background of his > >question > > >to BB, below(?) > > > > > >also, ppl like Kevin, perhaps other street preachers, too, will > >want to > > >distinguish themselves on this underlying issue--we'll see > > > > > >G > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:09:34 -0800 Dave Hansen > > >writes: > > >|| > > > > > > > > DAVEH: Perry, I assume your reply means you really are not > >looking > > > > for an answer to your question posed at the very bottom[*]..to > >know how > > > > > > > to *evangelize* Mormons. > > >||... > > >||... > > >[*]>>>>>>Blaine, please tell us what *evangelical approach* would > > > >>>>>>>work best with Mormons, especially at the General > >Conference. > > > > > > ---------- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that > >you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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