So this is the standard for being a believer?

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It is interesting to me that God dealt with the fall of man as He did.   His was a solution considered in a world (eternity) very different from ours  --  inaccessible, in fact, except through faith (now) and dying (later).   But the administration of this "consideration" was in our world  --   a world that God created, rules over but cannot indwell  apart from a humiliation (Philip 2) and a surrender of his eternal existence in death.   That is a remarkable action on the part of the Christian God.   I believe that what He did for us is what He HAD to do.   The fall left Him without a choice.  And He knew of this demand before our creation.   The Son of God was just that, the Son, before the foundations of the world (John 17) and it was out of this passion that we are created!!

The "creation," then, was not a statement of His power so much as it was of His grace. 

(These words are mine   ----------  the inspiration, such as it is, for these words came from Barth.   To argue that Barth is not profoundly a Christian is ill-informed, at best)

JD


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