BLAINE: IN ANSWER TO YOUR ACCUSATION THAT WE NEVER TALK ABOUT JESUS--THAT IS MORE OF YOUR ACCUSATORY B.S., KEVIN. YOU KNOW IT TOO, SO WHY DO YOU LIE LIKE A RUG? We pray in our services ALWAYS in the name of Jesus Christ, twice each service, 3 services per Sunday. Our sacrament prayers, 2 per meeting, are in the name of Jesus Christ. The name of our church is, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS. Whole chapters in the BoM are of the ministry of Jesus Christ to the peoples of this continent. We use the KJV extensively in our services and our teaching, which is ALL about Jesus Christ. You are-- just as usual-- setting up little straw men, then knocking them over.
But you should have written . . . AUTHORITY!!! AUTHORITY! AUTHORITY! People recognize true authority---that is the real reason for Mormon growth. See below, a quote from a previous post: " What I was mostly talking about however, was authority--the burning bush type of authority. When we see the Shechinah, or the brilliancy of light that marks the presence of the Lord, we know we have authority, the same kind Moses was given. The Prophet Joseph Smith described this phenomenon in connection with his first vision as "a light . . . above the brightness of the sun," and said he saw two Personages whose "brightness and glory defy all description," standing "in the light." For more on the Shechinah, see the following passages: Ex. 3:1-6; 24:16-17; 1 Kgs. 8:10-11; Isa 6:1-3; Matt 17:5; Acts 7:55" On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:16:50 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The muslim faith grows in spite of a lot more "persecution" than LDS > claim. > It is biiger & growing faster than mormonism so it must be the true > church based on those facts. > > The LDS talk about CHURCH CHURCH CURCH > or > PROPHET PROPHET PROPHET > How about Jesus? > You know the name that is only once in a grrat while spoken in the > wards & Conferences. > Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other > name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > BLAINE: The miracle was that he had a spiritual experience > convincing > him of his sins and that the BoM was true after all. You must have > just > read the headlines. > Bytheway, I want to tell you something. The LDS Church will continue > to > advance and grow, because the people who are minding the store, so > to > speak, have received their commission from above. You and your > street > preacher friends stand in your own light, each one advancing his own > cause, and his own slant on what true doctrine ought to be. You are > destined to fall. Sooner or later, it will happen, so you'd better > start > watching the curves the LDS Church throw you, Kevin, they will > inevitably > win the war. You and your boys may win a battle now and again, but > the > impetus is in favor of the LDS Church--it grows despite persecution > and > opposition. It has proven that numerous times. > Speaking concerning His servants--LDS missionaries, prophets, > apostles, > etc.--called up and chosen in these last days, the Lord has said: > > "Wherefore, fear and tremble , O ye people, for what I have decreed > in > them shall be fulfilled. . . . And the arm of the Lord shall be > revealed; > and the day cometh that THEY who will not hear the voice of the > Lord, > NEITHER THE VOICE OF HIS SERVANTS, NEITHER GIVE HEED TO THE WORDS OF > THE > PROPHETS AND APOSTLES, shall be cut off from among the people, for > THEY > have strayed from mine ordinances, and have broken mine everlastuing > covenant; THEY SEEK NOT THE LORD TO ESTABLISH HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, but > every man walketh in his own way, . . . " > D&C 1:7-17 > > It is the Lord's righteousness we are to advance, Kevin, not our own > opinions, beliefs, dogmas, commandments, etc. Spiritual darkness > covers > all the earth--it is rapidly ripening for destruction. Only those > who > build on the sure rock will continue--that rock is revelation given > through the true servants of the Lord. > > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:12:53 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan > writes: > > Maybe he should personally make reparations to the LDS also! > > AND he "performs" miracles WOW it must be of God > > > > Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all > power > > and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of > > unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the > > > love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause > God > > shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a > lie:That > > they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had > > pleasure in unrighteousness > > > > > > 39-Year Baptist Minister Turned Charismatic Mormon Remnant > Gatherer > > http://www.greaterthings.com/Ridenhour/ > > > > WATCH OUT OR THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU!!!!!!! > > > > For years and years I preached from the pulpit that Mormonism was > of > > the devil, that Joseph Smith was the founder of a cult. As a > > conservative Baptist minister I believed it vehemently with every > > fiber of my being. I was quite a "crusader for the truth," > > meaning--about as anti-Mormon as you can get. I hung out with John > > > Ankerberg and Jerry Fallwell. I shamed my opponents, publicly > > confronted them, humiliated them wrote literature against them and > > > campaigned from door to door with my fellow evangelical ministers. > > > All in the name of Truth. > > > > Then it happened... > > > > One day our loving Father very quietly, very unassuming, but very > > very convincingly--without the help of any human instrument--let > me > > know that the precious restoration gospel, the Book of Mormon, and > > > Joseph Smith were each sent to us from God our Father. Up 'till > that > > moment, I had my paradigm (Mormonism is of the devil) and our > > brothers have theirs (patriotism and Christianity are aligned). > Let > > God be God. And let it go. > > > > Lynn > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Missouri Mob Descendant Apologizes to Mormons, Performs Miracles > > For Immediate Release > > Jan. 24, 2005 > > > > By Greater Things News Service > > (Not officially affiliated with Ezekiel Conference) > > > > > > Lynn Ridenhour addresses > > the Ezekiel Conference at the > > Unitarian Church on Highland > > Drive in Salt Lake City, > > January 22, 2005 > > > > > > click for high-res > > Lynn Ridenhour with Sterling > > Allan a Mormon descendant, > > who put his arm around > > Ridenhour while he was > > seeking to regain his > > composure while tearfully > > reading the Statement of > > Repentance. Allan introduced > > Ridenhour to John Bayley a > > couple of years ago, and they > > have been partners in ministry > > ever since. > > > > > > SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH -- Southern Baptist Minister, Lynn Ridenhour, > > > issued > > a tearful public apology Saturday to the Mormons for the actions > of > > his > > ancestors in persecuting and driving the Mormons from Missouri in > > the > > 1800's. Speaking at the invitation of the Ezekiel Seminar in Salt > > Lake > > City on Jan. 22, 2005, Ridenhour read a prepared statement which > was > > warmly received by the audience of 160 predominantly Mormon > > participants, > > who embraced him and offered their forgiveness in turn. > > > > Ridenhour's statement said that though he was raised and trained > to > > speak > > against the Mormons as a cult, he came to see that while their > > beliefs > > are different, they are not a cult. > > > > Having discovered in his family history that his Missouri > ancestors > > "were > > involved in the Mormon War, running the Mormons out of the state," > > > he > > took occasion in his speaking engagement to offer the apology on > > behalf > > of his ancestors and to ask for forgiveness. > > > > Ridenhour presently resides in Independence, Missouri, where he > > leads a > > charismatic revival that includes an honored place for the Book of > > Mormon. > > > > The "Statement of Repentance" was read in the course of a lecture > > titled, > > "I'm looking for a church," in which he itemized five aspects > which > > all > > turned out to be features of the LDS Church at the time of Joseph > > Smith: > > Manifest presence of God, taking God out of the "box", prophetic, > > welcomes signs and wonders, worshippers. > > > > Ridenhour told of going through accounts of Mormon History and > > documenting the number of manifestations of the various gifts of > the > > spirit, from speaking in tongues, to raising the dead, healing the > > > sick > > and appearances of angels. He also told of his experience reading > > the > > Book of Mormon for the first time. "It was like being born again > -- > > again!" "The Book of Mormon is more Baptist than the Baptist > > hymnal," he > > said, referencing the core Baptists doctrines propounded there. > > > > He was recently contacted by a key leader figure in the > Pentecostal > > church who asked him if he really believed in the Book of Mormon, > > and > > then confessed that he too has been a believer for many years, but > > > has > > not been able to come out of the closet because of his position in > > > the > > Pentecostal church. Ridenhour has scheduled a time not long from > now > > to > > have this minister come to Independence and go on record publicly > as > > a > > Book of Mormon believer. Being over some 168 congregations, his > > confession ought to turn some heads. > > > > At the end of the conference, Ridenhour, along with his > ministerial > > partner, John Bayley -- also a Book of Mormon believer and Mormon > > lover > > -- ministered to the group assembled, performing several miracles > of > > healing and giving "a word of knowledge" to numerous people who > were > > astonished at the accuracy of the words of inspired wisdom being > > spoken > > to them that were so specific and timely for their unique > > situations. One > > LDS woman spoke in tongues as she was filled with the Holy Ghost, > > which > > was then interpreted to her great joy and weeping. Not all who > > sought > > healings were healed on the spot, but were promised they could be > > healed. > > > > This was around the 18th Ezekiel Conference to be held, and the > > first > > time they had this kind of open manifestation of such miracles in > > their > > midst. The conferences commenced about three years ago because of > > many > > people being touched by an account of a ten-year-old girl who died > > > from a > > diabetic coma and returned from death without the veil, who > > apparently > > has continued to have near daily encounters with Jesus on a level > of > > familiarity surpassing what most people have in a best friend or > > parent. > > The purpose of the ongoing conferences is to teach about the gifts > > > of the > > spirit and foster their identification and development in the > lives > > of > > people for the blessing of mankind. > > > > > > click for high-res > > John Bayley > > > > > > John Bayley addressing > > the Ezekiel conference. > > > > > > John Bayley with Sterling > > Allan, who met him in 2002 > > when John was ministering > > in Manti Utah. > > > > > > click for high-res > > John Bayley issues the > > word of the Lord given > > him the morning of the > > Conference. > > > > > > John Bayley with Gina > > Bailey, LDS instructor and > > inspirational speaker > > and singer. > > > > > > This was the first conference that Ridenhour attended, having been > > introduced to conference founder and director, Doug Mendenhall by > > John > > Bayley. Doug met John in December 2003. He was in Independence > doing > > a > > conference, in which three speakers had canceled. Not knowing what > > > to > > do, he said "the Lord said to go anyway and he would provide." > Once > > there, he saw John Bayley, didn't know him, and said "the Spirit > > told me > > to go ask him to speak." He did, and Bayley gladly obliged. > > > > Bayley has been a regular speaker since that time, beloved by > those > > who > > attend, who find great humor in the fact that he is a black man > with > > beaded hair. "He's like Samuel the Lamanite of Book of Mormon > > times," > > said one conference goer, inasmuch as he is non LDS coming among > > them to > > stir them up to repentance and remembrance of their birthright, to > > > be > > better LDS than they have been. "Wake the sleeping giant" was the > > message > > of both Bayley and Ridenhour. > > > > Ridenhour and Bayley spurred the conference attendees to awaken > > their > > fellow Mormons to return to the glory days of the prophet Joseph > > Smith in > > which the gifts of the spirit were a vital part of their daily > > lives, > > sometimes continuing all day and into the night in great > outpourings > > in > > their midst. > > > > Bayley said he was given a word of the Lord regarding the Mormon > > church > > the second morning of the two-day conference. He said that the > Lord > > was > > not pleased that so many had been excommunicated by the shepherds > > who > > were supposed to be tending the flock. He said that the Lord will > be > > very displeased when he returns if he finds any outside the fold > who > > are > > supposed to be in, and that those responsible for their removal > will > > themselves be removed if this is not remedied. > > > > The word he gave promised that if the church would restore those > who > > had > > been removed, they would become three times more powerful and grow > > > three > > times as large. Bayley himself has been disciplined by his > Christian > > brothers, being removed from a position of high leadership because > > > of > > being a "Mormon lover." > > > > Ridenhour said that the "two sticks" prophecy in Ezekiel is not > just > > about the Bible and the Book of Mormon becoming one in the hand, > but > > that > > the people of the Bible and the people of the Book of Mormon will > > become > > one as well. > > > > "In Old Testament times, God manifest his glory in the cloud, but > > not his > > person. In New Testament times, God manifest his person but not > his > > glory. In our day, he is going to manifest both his glory and his > > person." > > > > ---------- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that > you > > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email > to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you > > have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man." 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