Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

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May I recomend the writings of John Zizioulas.   Good stuff. 

 

A couple of examples: 

 

 

An eschatological approach to the history of salvation teaches us that nothing was created perfect from the beginning. Everything, including especially the human being, was meant to grow into perfection; their truth lay in the end, not in the beginning. Since the end decides finally about the truth of history only those events leading to the end will be shown to possess true being

 

Could it be that my surmising of the "fall" allowed for the introduction of sin while insisting upon the incompleteness of man from the get-go;  that life after creation is an extension of the creation process;  that we were always created to be indwelt and successful ???  Shazam !!

 

And, again for the Zmeister:

 

Communion and Otherness   There is no other model for the proper relation between communion and otherness either for the Church or for the human being than the Trinitarian God. If the Church wants to be faithful to her true self, she must try to mirror the communion and otherness that exists in the Triune God. The same is true of the human being as the "image of God."   Theology and Church life involve a certain conception of the human being: personhood. This term, sanctified through its use in connection with the very being of God and of Christ, is rich in its implications. The Person is otherness in communion and communion in otherness.

Amen and amen.  I left the highlight ---  click and see what you think. 

 

JD 

 

 

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. sin--the disobedience of a prideful autonomy which impaired the human capacity to

 

John Paul II

 

 

Think about it  !!! 

 

Reconciliation is a done deal, accomplished in the body of His flesh, at His death and inclusive of all of creation (Col 1:17ff),  but there remains those who are "lost" and "saved,"   All are reconciled  -  some are saved. - a problem .   Perhaps the demand on us is to change our thinking about those concepts.  They cannot have in view the same circumstance as "reconciliation,"  as I see it.   If reconciliation has a practical application, would that not include a partnership with God, as the Father, giving assistance (i.e. Philip 2:12-13) to those who are His while allowing us (all) to make decisions that are harmful to us on an ontological scale?   The reward we receive  for the practice of "salvation" would be "heaven."   The punishment we might experience as a result of refusing this partnership is not so much an assignment as it is a reasonable conclusion to the autonomy we have decided to persue?   As in the story of the prodigal  -  heaven (the home) was simply the end of the journey.   If that son had decided to remain in the pen,  his "reward" would have been that reality   --   the Father neither sending him there or DECIDING to reward if he returned.  

 

The definition above, from the thinking of John Paul, seems to be an excellent contribution to this subject. 

 

 

JD