Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

[Lance Muir]

In which branch did you serve? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 15:34 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin If it was not for the US Lance would be speaking the Dutch right now! Heil Left Wing Ideolog's ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are you enjoying your politically irrelevant rants Lance? First you say we should forgive all debts against the USA, then you make remarks that we are going to go bankrupt because of the debts, etc. The Bible says lend and do not ask in return. That's basically what we do. We don't worry about. I'm sorry you lose sleep over it. Izzy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:05 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin I understand that monies owed the US total 3 trillion. The 'debt' owed the US by Europe, Canada and, many other parts of the globe for it's aid in both dollars and lives is incalculable. This issue though connected, needs to be evaluated separately from the current state of affairs in your country. Jesus' Gospel of the inbreaking of the reign of God excludes nothing. The Gospel of the kingdom (Lk 16) suggests that cultural and, political awareness are imperative. The privatization of the gospel (personal salvation to the exclusion of all else) is a shortcoming. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: May 24, 2005 16:38 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin > > > 'Lance....isn't 'that'(?) a red > > herring?' > > LM responds: How so, > > Christine? > > A red herring is an argument that distracts the > audience from the issue in question by introducing > some irrelevancy. Your speculation that my father is > not culturally connected is irrelevant to the topic. > Judy picked up on your subject-change, and I agreed > with her: you seemed to be dodging the question. > > > CM asserts that I equate cultural awareness with > > cultural brainwashing. LM > > asks:Using the context of my post kindly demonstrate > > this assertion. > > Well, this is what Judy said (and what I encouraged > you to answer): > > > Have you also tallied up third world debt? > > > > Money owed the US by other nations, and the cost > > of Canada's irresponsibility the times they opted > > out and reaped the benefits anyway? Someone always > > pays the price... It is hopelessly naive to think > > that if noone does anything - things will right > > themselves. Would Europe be Western today if > Charles > Martel had not beaten back the Islamic hoard > when they > got to Spain? jt > > And your response was: > > > The vortex of the whirlpool awaits. Why not > > ask 'the prophet' if he sees connections where you > > and Iz do not? He just might surprize you. If he > > did, by the by then, he'd really surprize me! I > > believe him to be largely culturally disconnected. I > > > trust that Christine briefs him when she's home. > > You did not answer Judy's post. You brought up > something irrelevant, and ignored the merits of her > argument. My father's cultural awareness has nothing > to do with Judy's point. > > Judy's post is still unanswered. > > > Blessings, > > Christine > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > CM asks of me:'Lance....isn't 'that'(?) a red > > herring?' LM responds: How so, > > Christine? > > > > CM asserts that I equate cultural awareness with > > cultural brainwashing. LM > > asks:Using the context of my post kindly demonstrate > > this assertion. > > Further, CM asserts that I equate knowledge and > > belief. I do not. I did > > however, suggest a viewing of The Corporation > > together. When you've done so > > we might then have a discussion. > > > > CM suggests that Jt refers to something about paying > > the price for something > > or other. Kindly explain along with the logical > > fallacy I fell prey to. > > > > Well done young lady. You have the fancy footwork of > > your father. You may > > have a career in the ring. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: May 24, 2005 14:35 > > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin > > > > > > > JT wrote: > > > > Lance I find it curious that no matter what the > > > > subject you are ALWAYS able to revert the > > discussion > > > > back to > > > > something critical of David Miller. > > > > > > Judy asserts an interesting point there, Lance. > > Isn't > > > that called a red herring? > > > > > > Also, you seem to equate cultural awareness with > > > cultural brainwashing. I am not persuaded by the > > elite > > > media, nor the liberalism of our foreign > > neighbors. > > > You imply that if only my father or myself KNEW > > the > > > popular, anti-American sentiments of today, we > > would > > > then have no choice but to agree. > > > > > > Now, why don't you answer Judy's response about > > > someone always paying the price? Her point was > > > excellent and I have a feeling that is why you > > > reverted to a logical fallacy. > > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Christine > > > > > > PS- My father is not culturally unaware. He is my > > best > > > friend. You speak of him as if he were barely > > human, > > > and you seem to scorn the Lord's annointing on > > him. > > > > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > Why? By osmosis she just might, via her peers, > > > > assimilate some cultural awareness. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Judy Taylor > > > > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > > > Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > > > Sent: May 24, 2005 07:02 > > > > Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin > > > > > > > > > > > > Lance I find it curious that no matter what > > the > > > > subject you are ALWAYS able to revert the > > discussion > > > > back to > > > > something critical of David Miller. So you > > don't > > > > believe he has a spiritual gifting? This > > reflects > > > > more upon where > > > > you are than whether or not he is used by God > > in > > > > this dimension. Also you are doubletalking. > > You > > > > just got > > > > through calling Christine a carbon copy of her > > dad > > > > - so why would she need to be briefing him IYO? > > jt > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 May 2005 06:51:05 -0400 "Lance > > Muir" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: > > > > The vortex of the whirlpool awaits. Why not > > ask > > > > 'the prophet' if he sees connections where you > > and > > > > Iz do not? He just might surprize you. If he > > did, by > > > > the by then, he'd really surprize me! I believe > > him > > > > to be largely culturally disconnected. I trust > > that > > > > Christine briefs him when she's home. > > > > From: Judy Taylor > > > > > > > > Have you also tallied up third world debt? > > > > Money owed the US by other nations, and the cost > > of > > > > Canada's irresponsibility the times they opted > > out > > > > and reaped the benefits anyway? Someone always > > pays > > > > the price... It is hopelessly naive to think > > that if > > > > noone does anything - things will right > > themselves. > > > > Would Europe be Western today if Charles Martel > > had > > > > not beaten back the Islamic hoard when they got > > to > > > > Spain? jt > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 May 2005 04:35:15 -0400 "Lance > > > > Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: > > > > Mr. Rogers says (from the neighborhood > > in > > > > the sky) 'hey kids, can we say seven trillion, > > nine > > > > hundred and thirty-seven billion?' Bankruptcy > > > > awaits. > > > > From: Kevin Deegan > > > > First you must have one..... > > > > > > > > Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Why would we be? We are not invading > > > > countries to build an empire. > > > > From: ShieldsFamily > > > > I'm sure you and Canada are not > > being > > > > judged for anything at all. How lovely for you. > > > > Izzy > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf > > > > Of Lance Muir > > > > You, collectively, are being > > judged > > > > now for your consumerist, religious, non-kingdom > > > > building (see Dallas Willard on this), dualist, > > > > gnostic approach to what should be an embodied > > > > gospel. God may well be using 'them' to judge > > you. > > > > > > > > From: Judy Taylor > > > > > > > > Would you rather have mid east > > cloak > > > > and dagger along with muslim violence and > > insanity. > > > > Also how can you be > > > > > > > > so sure that God is not involved > > > > with what is happening in the middle east. How > > are > > > > you so sure it is not the time > > > > > > > > of Iraq's visitation? Through > > > > history God has always used one nation to judge > > > > another. Yes, the US will be > > > > > > > > judged also but - IN GOD'S TIME > > - > > > > Not Lance's. jt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 23 May 2005 09:18:21 > > -0400 > > > > "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: > > > > > > > > 'If' is the operative wordy, > > Izzy. > > > > Given GWB's track record, it isn't looking > > hopeful. > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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