RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

[ShieldsFamily]

Lance your comment is irrelevant to the discussion.  Izzy   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 'Proof-texting' can apply to more than the Scriptures. Michael Moore and John Kerry both employed it vis a vis GWB. How did you respond when they did it? One may accurately quote someone, often absent appropriate context,  with the intent of critiquing the person they quote.   From: ShieldsFamily   How would they know if they’ve never tried? Anyway, “proof-texting” is a term THEY use to shoot down scripture quoters.  Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen DAVEH:   Can you blame them?  Seems like it may be a defensive technique.  If they quote a passage, they may fear being criticized as proof-texting. ShieldsFamily wrote: DaveH, regarding your previous question, please take note of this technique of the Bible quote haters:  Instead of specifically quoting a particular statement to explain their views they throw an entire chapter at you and say, "It's in there if you just can see it--find it for yourself!"  Thus they think they are justified for using the Bible, but have blurred the issues by not being specific (because it really isn't "in there"!).  Izzy     The Bible does NOT speak for itself. On this (see my formula once again) we wholeheartedly agree. Why is it that even among the 'biblicists' who are mature there exists such minimal agreement? This ain't tennis or ping pong folks, this is the God of the Cosmos! Throwing out bible verses which simply elucidate YOUR view (not HIS) leaves people confused. That's why I referenced 2 Tim 3 (KJV whole chapter). Because men love darkness so much that they will not come to the light so that their deeds may be made manifest.   On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:49:00 -0700 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The Bible speaks for itself. DAVEH:    Are you sure about that, Izzy???  If so, why are there so many TTers wanting to speak in its behalf?   Hmmmmmm.......If the The Bible speaks for itself, then why do Street Preachers feel the need to proclaim it from the street? ShieldsFamily wrote: The Bible speaks for itself.  According to JSmith the Bible is not enough.  Who will you serve, the God of the Bible or the God of the Book of Mormon? Izzy     -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.