RE: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

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JD I would have to say that I certainly have had doctrinal changes over my lifetime.  For instance, I grew up being taught that baptism was for infants.  Now that I have become and Believer and understand His Word, I know that is not true.  There were doctrinal issues that I never thought about even years after becoming a Believer, but as I turned my attention to them the Lord has directed my learning.  As far as major issues, however, such as those upon which salvation is based, I can’t really think of any big changes at the moment that have changed since I was born again. I’ll let you know if I think of something.  I guess it  would not be impossible, as most of us were brought up being taught error of many kinds, but certainly when we are born again we have the Holy Spirit to teach us right from wrong, especially on crucial “doctrine”. I also don’t think it’s a big deal to admit that you change your mind and learn something now and then.  It could be a good sign that you are teachable.  However, if one is changing a lot and on big issues and frequently, it could be a sign that this person is still searching for a true knowledge of Jesus Christ.  That could also be a good thing—as they might just find Him.  Izzy   Jeremiah 29:13 'You will seek Me and find Me when you  search for Me with all your heart. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:57 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha   No one called you ignorant.  BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DEBATE THIS TYPE OF COMMENT.  No more personal evaluation or extended defense for me.  I do not like aditting being wrong  --  but I was in this issue.     Secondly, you seem to believe that spiritual growth does not include  continuing  maturity and change as applied to doctrine.    Whether one believes that God does not change has little to do with the changes occurring in our lives due  to the Spirit's influence in our lives.  One would think that the use of the concept  "babe in Christ" would imply the existence of immature thought and action within the life of a Christian.     When addressing the limitations of a list such as this  --   what we say is one thing,  how we say and the choice of wording has everything to do with the "way we act."    How could it be seen differently.  such is our "performance."     Jd   -----Original Message----- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:10:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha I understand what you are saying JD but you mix spiritual growth which is in flux and has to do with obedience in our daily lives with doctrine - or what we believe.  They are related because "as a man believes in his heart - so is he" but it is impossible for an internet list to evaluate how we perform so we are limited to what we believe here .. and this is what I addressed.  What I wrote is relevant unless you have a different objection.  Calling me ignorant breaks down communication and will get us nowhere.  jt   On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:58:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You really don't even try to understand what I am saying.    Let's move on, shall we.    Jd    From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't start all over again from the beginning JD; if we don't hold fast to what we already know and understand as truth then we are in danger of slipping ie: "Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed (attention) to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip."  Since Jesus is the "same yesterday, today, and forever" Truth is not relevant to culture or changing times.  In fact when all else is in flux - HE remains the same.  jt    On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:44:58 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has occurred to me that if we speak and write with the view in mind that we at the beginning of another day of learning,  our hearts and minds will be more open to what God has instore.  Perhaps our doctrinal statements should not be "as if written n stone.'   But reflective of the growth that will begin again with the start of a new day.    We would do less fighting and more growing.    That is what I Cor 8:1-3 is saying,   ----   is it not?  Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing that is final, a closed systems of knowledge.     Jd