That's the crux of our theological divergence, JD. You
believe that God's goal for His redeemed is better relationships. He died
on the cross for that? "Duh!". Izzy
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The "duh !!" response was the
only thing I could think of at the time. Judy had once again put me in the
category of teaching the doctrine of men, for some reason, while entering
into a discussion of what she did the other night at church. She defends
this rather unusual procession of thouhgt by
giving me a brief lesson on becoming comformed to the image of Christ
.......................... as if my primary concern is something
other than this. Hence "duh !!"
I personally believe that we change because of our relationship with The Truth
more than because of conceptual correctness. There is the opinion
here on Tt, it seems, that God cannot
accomplish growth in an individual if there exists any sin in his/her
life. If the goal of God is to create a people who think correctly on
all matters, then He has failed if a single consideration is
wrong. But if the goal is relational in nature and substance,
God's success in our lives will be demonstrated in spite of our sins or errant
thinking. Correct?
Jd
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From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha
You had implied in the past that you & yours are the only ones capable
of inteligent discussion. Was that the OLD
JD?
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If you are saying that we are to be like Him, conformed to His image -- I say "duh !!!!!"It appears, howeer that we have regressed into monologue.Jd
I'm talking about Truth and what the PCA have done via the Shorter Catechism is what doctrines of menare doing constantly - you included JD. Since His works were done before the foundation of the world andit is written that we are predestined to be conformed to the "image of Christ" then it follows that this should be the 'chief end of man' doesn't it? - That is if God's Word means anything to us at all .... and this has everything to do with relationship with Christ = jtOn Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:56:45 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I am talking about a realtionship with Christ and you are talking about what? Sorry, but I miss your point completely.Jd
Interesting JD,I've been attending an introductory class at the church we have been attending which is PCA. They identify with the Reformation and they like the Shorter Catechism. I can't figure out why the first point in the Catechism does not say that the chief end of man is to be conformed to the image of Christ - after all this is what we have been predestined for and they believe in predestination. (Romans 8:29) jtOn Wed, 08 Jun 2005 15:12:20 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Not too bad of a question. Quite often growth may appear to be vacillation. If we define new birth as a putting on of Christ, emphasis on a relationship, then we might suppose that the resulting validation marking the difference between vacillation and growth is the benefit can see in the occurring changes. If I am a better person, growth has occurred. If I have become more distasteful, something is wrong with the relationship. After all, that is the way relationships work. Soooo, "truth" can be said to exist IN THE BELIEVER if that believer becomes more and more like Christ.JD
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
JD are you Growing or Vacillating?