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Name:Kevin Rank:SPGeneral Serial
#:666
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 10:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
Are you still looking for my Name Rank & Serial number?
The brother Judy, is all about 'pressing'.
That's what he does! Besides, this fellow is more than capable of 'handling
someone as insignificant as mois. Ain't that so, Kevin?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
Could be God has given these ppl over to a 'reprobate mind'
Lance. It's a possibility isn't it? Anyway
no prophecy of scripture was ever written by the 'will of man' and no
individual will ever by saved
by the 'will of man' either - so why press the brother to do your
will rather than obey God? jt
As Kevin has so often challenged me 'why
not answer the actual question(s) asked? Mind, I don't blame you as it's
perfectly understandable, Kevin. You don't (replicate in front of
Mosques in the USA that which you do at other locals throughout the USA
and, utilizing the same methodology) and, you won't. Do you not view
Isam as an = if not greater heresy throughout the land?
Answer: You are correct, Lance. I simply am
not called to do this.
FTR Q: Does it appear that anyone else IS
called to do this?
Answer: No, it would appear
not.HMMMMMM?
We do - you SIT
I looked at the photo-journal of the
SPer's trip. What a waste! A Muslim country? You live in one. As for
both trips; the one taken and the one projected, why not take care
of 'business' at home? My question was:Why not replicate in front of
'your' Mosques what you do at Mardi Gras, Super Bowl etc.? You won't
and, for good reason.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 20, 2005
18:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
Want to come with us to a muslim country to
preach? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Now, there's a collection of
pictures I'd enjoy having a look at.Of course y'all do this with
the same frequency as the others, eh? Will you tell which
Mosques, how many and, with what frequency?
Do 'you' believe that Muhammed was
inspired to write the Koran by the same one who inspired the BOM
namely, Satan?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 20, 2005
14:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Hill Cumorah
The plain answer is yes
I'm confident that you wouldn't
be INTENTIONALLY EVASIVE so, please answer the question as
asked. Employing the 'model' (placards, bullhorns
etc.)provided for us by DM & Kevin vis a vis the Super
Bowl, Mardis Gras and, outside the Temple in Salt Lake City,
would they do the same thing outside a mosque (a Muslim
place of worship) and, if not then, whey not?
Do revisit what kicked this
discussion off. There is a serious point to be made
here.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 20, 2005
06:56
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
I don't know about DavidM but I'm
sure Kevin and Ruben have encountered Muslims in their SP
travels. I figure it
would be tit for tat (with truth
on their side) since Muslims call everyone and everything
Western "the great Satan" My Scots friend tells
me that in the UK the Muslims
have taken over and that now the Red Cross will not put
anything Christian out at Christmas for fear of offending them. Her
brother in Manchester England says he will not give the
Red Cross another cent because
of it and he isn't even religious. jt
I do not have a problem
with 'exposure'. I don't think that that is Dave's point
though.
May I suggest that an
equal. if not greater, danger to believers lies
within Islam. Could you imagine David Miller or Kevin
going to Mosques and, utilizing bullhorns, villify the
attendants by addressing THEM as servants of
Satan?
I would think it would be
more like Jeremiah (see Jer 13:1,2); this is obviously
a one time object lesson to
the part of Israel Jeremiah
was ministering to rather than a pattern of behavior
for all time. However, part of public
proclamation of Truth by nature involves exposing the
lie of the false gods
which of course will be offensive to those who worship
them. Why do you have
such a problem with this? jt
Elijah.
Can you give us a "for
instance" DaveH? jt
DAVEH:
As I understand your position (and please
correct me if I am misunderstanding your
position), many Christians (specifically you, in
this instance) believe that everything written
in the Bible is specifically applicable to
Christians today. So, if a prophet
of the Bible used a technique of mocking, that
means it is OK for you to do the same
thing. If a prophet of God in the Bible is
commanded to go preach on the streets, you
assume that instruction applies to you as
well....is that correct,
Kevin?
To me, that
isn't logical at all. Just as what he
compelled the prophets of the OT to do was not
necessarily applicable to the prophets of the
NT, what the Lord wants us to do today may or
may not be what he wants us to do today.
It seems to me that the Lord
over time has commanded various people to do
things that he may not have commanded at a
subsequent time or other
peoples. Hope that makes some
sense.....
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: And because some of
the early prophets mocked with God's blessing,
you believe it is your right to do so as
well? Isn't that stretching logic a bit
beyond it's breaking
point?
NO
How so?
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
Yes, but where they "Contending for the
faith"? DAVEH: What do
you think they were disputi9ng if it wasn't
their perspecdtive of the faith? Don't you
think they were arguing the truth as they saw
it, perhaps in the same way it is done on TT
occassionally?
Please show me where God admonished Paul,
for his "much
contention" DAVEH: My
last post about admonishment was regarding the
bickering (if that's the proper word for it)
Christians who Paul admonished.
If you were an
apostle as was Paul and admonished me for
arguing about theology, I would pay heed.
But I don't think you've even claimed to be an
apostle, Kevin. (Am I wrong on
that?) >From my perspective you seem to
be one who is contributing to the
contention. Why do you think Paul's
admonishment not to contend (Titus 3:9) doesn't
apply to you? Isn't it just a matter of
perspective? If another TTer were to argue
against your understanding of whatever doctrine,
why do you think you would be in the right and
he would be in the wrong? Do you sincerely
believe you are right on all your points of
doctrine, or do you allow you may at times be
wrong?
Show me where Elijah was admonished in the
scriptures for MOCKING.
In fact right after Elijah Mocking the
prophets of Baal, God answered his
prayer. DAVEH: And
because some of the early prophets mocked with
God's blessing, you believe it is your right to
do so as well? Isn't that stretching logic
a bit beyond it's breaking point?
God Mocks
Prov 1:26
Because I have called, and ye
refused... But ye
have set at nought all my counsel, and would
none of my reproof: I also
will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when
your fear
comethDave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Were not a lot of early Christians in
contention, and admonished for it?
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
No read the scriptures. They were "IN God"
with MUCH Contention. Dave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Do you suppose that could have been one of
Paul's faults?
Kevin Deegan
wrote:
> By the way did you know that
Paul was VERY
CONTENTIOUS?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.langlitz.com
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