I did reply, Perry. It's all been covered in the archives with BTaylor and JHughes. DMiller also participated in that conversation. Do you remember it, David?. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: June 21, 2005 13:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: For Judy
> Lance, sounds like a reasonable offer from Judy to resolve your current > issue. Can you demonstrate such from scripture? If not, then using the term > "heretical" for Judy's understanding does not seem warranted. > > Perry > > >From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >CC: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: For Judy > >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:01:45 -0400 > > > >You have an "OBLIGATION" as a professing 'believer' to speak the truth in > >love to me Lance Muir. If you so believe > >then straighten me out. SHOW ME IN THE BIBLE BY TWO OR MORE WITNESSES > >where I am missing it. I want to see > >some OT testimonies. If it is such a BIGGIE then this should be > >important to you. Is it your custom to just shove > >everything under the rug because your "incarnation doctrine" covers it > >anyway? Tell me why Jesus has to be an "eternal Son" in your own words > >and from your own perspective from God's Word. judyt > > > >On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:53:12 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >writes: > >Probably every TT participant on TT is a HERETIC or a heretic. > >(I'm confident that you get the distinction) On this issue Judy, you > >classify as a HERETIC (capitalized) This is a biggie. Let's just move on > >shall we? IMO, it would be of no avail for anyone to make an attempt at > >engaging you. (you could lose a limb yet continue to function > >successfully so....) > >From: Judy Taylor > > > >You are looking in the wrong place for repentance Lance. I asked you for > >scriptural grounds for your belief which is something neither you, > >Jonathan, nor Bill Taylor have proferred so far. Other men's opinions > >are what you feed upon and so long as this is so we will continue to go > >around in endless circles. Hopefully one of these days you will realize > >that there is just One who has ALL truth and begin to seek Him for > >answers - then we will make some headway. judyt > > > >On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:44:55 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >writes: > >So then Judy, no repentance forthcoming. Actually, this conversation took > >place long ago in a galaxy far, far away. JHughes, BTaylor and JTaylor > >went on and on and on...... > >It's a done deal, Judy. > >From: Judy Taylor > > > >Really Lance, > >You need to warn Jonathan about receiving teaching from ppl such as this > >because it is not faith enhancing at all. This is is probably a > >well-meaning fellow but his teaching is full of fear and has no new > >argument. All of his scriptures are NT. Peter's proclamation, John 3:16 > >etc. He uses lots of words and just goes round and round with the same > >ol, same ol. He accuses those who deny the "eternal" part of using > >carnal reasoning and then goes on to do the same himself along with some > >new accusations ie: those who don't subscribe to his doctrine are denying > >the Son and under God's wrath, and they are Socian (which is someone who > >denies the trinity); this man is another follower of Athanasius and the > >Nicene creed. > > > >For the record God does not mind us questioning when we do not > >understand; he told the prophet "Come let us reason together." And > >second I do not deny the Sonship of Christ nor do I have a problem with > >the Godhead. I believe according to the scriptures that the second > >member of the eternal Godhead known as God The Word became Jesus the Son > >when He was born to Mary which is/was prophesied in Psalm 2:7 "Thou art > >my Son, this day have I begotten Thee" > >So Jesus the Christ had a beginning and the word begotten is the > >operative one, in Strongs it is #3205 Yalad meaning "bearing young, > >midwife" Hebrews 1:5 validates this understanding and so does Matt 8:29 - > >(even the demons knew about it and feared because noone had challenged > >them under the Old Covenant). There are others who God calls sons ie: > >the angels, Israel, and even Satan as a created being but Jesus is the > >only one who was "begotten" of God. > > > >That's my foundation. Now if you can come up with something better from > >the OT without all of this circular religious reasoning; something clear > >from the mouths of two or more OT witnesses - I am eager to hear it. > >Still waiting patiently ..... judyt > > > > > >On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:34:32 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >writes: > > > >From: "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >The True, Proper, and Eternal Sonship of the Lord Jesus Christ the > >Only Begotten Son of God > > > >http://www.the-highway.com/Sonship_Contents.html > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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