No Judy, I won't restrain myself! On those occasions wherein I've spoken to my belief as to the genuineness of your discipleship, I quite meant every one. On those occasions that I've addressed, IMO, your 'not getting it', I also expressed my heart/mind conviction.
 
IFF David has done the same then, there is no hope of achieving 'dialogical status' between Bill & yourself. It shall remain a 'mutual monologue' where never the twain shall meet. Either David is cutting you a remarkable amount of 'slack' or, he is a companion heretic on several issues (IMO-please, Mr. Moderator, take note of this qualifier)
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Sent: July 20, 2005 16:35
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death was Re:John 16:13,14

Lance if you have something to say I would be glad to hear you but I'm a little (no a lot) tired of
these never ending one liners that constantly remind me of my seeming (to you) ignorance.  If you can
show me where I am wrong IN GOD'S WORD I am all eyes and ears. If not, then please restrain
yourself.  judyt
 
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:28:29 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
YOU KNOW NOT WHEREOF YOU SPEAK!!
 
Not a very pleasant way to express yourself Bill.
If you have had all you can take - it is your problem rather than mine.
Be glad to communicate whenever you have recovered.  judyt
 
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:44:04 -0600 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy, I agree with all of this just fine (in that I am able to draw the distinctions necessary to apprehend your position and based upon those distinctions, find enough common ground to agree with you), but I have had all of you I can take for one day. If you want to address this later, when you are more willing to make an honest effort to apprehend my positions, then I may consider pursuing this. But not until then.
 
Bill
 
Good, then we can move on to what the scriptural definitions of life and death might be.
 
Have we established the fact that God, Satan, and mankind are all spirit and all commune spirit to spirit?.
Job tells us "there is a spirit in man and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding (32:8)
Moses & Aaron knew "O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh" (Num 16:22)
In Proverbs we are told "the spirit of man is the candle of the Lord searching all the inward parts of the belly (20:27)
Proverbs also teaches that "perverseness is a breach in the spirit" (15:4)
 
Where is man's spirit?
The spirit is not the body and the spirit is not the mind; the heart of man is his spirit
A merry heart makes a cheerful countenance, but  by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken (Prov 15:13)
A man's spirit can sustain his infirmity but a broken spirit who can bear (Prov 18:14)
God says "I formeth the spirit of man within him" (Zech 12:1)
 
Any problem with the above?  judyt
 
 
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:02:16 -0600 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Thank you, Judy. Yes, I am very happy to agree with you on all of these things. Bill
Bill, could we discuss some areas where we do agree allowing scripture to interpret scripture
because for me it is totally frustrating to have to go the long route by way of Gk philosophy, logic, etc.
 
Could we agree on the following for a start?
God is a Spirit (John 4:24)
Man is primarily spirit, soul, and body (1 Thess 5:23)
Satan is a spirit (Heb 1:7) he is a fallen angel and angels are spirits
 
If we can agree on the above then hopefully we can move on to what God means when He speaks of
life and death - rather than replicating the errors of the ancients.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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