Not confusing at all. But, your inability to understand accurately my post gives rise to my doubts that you cannot know anything -------------------------------- for certain. You can know it passionately but not for certain.
You write this:
Who determines that you have missed the intended meaning? The answer is
obvious, JD. You do. This is what humility is all about. We hear our
brothers and sisters give their testimony, and when we find that our
understanding does not mesh with their understanding, we begin the
investigation to see whether we have it right or wrong. We start by
determining the foundation for our viewpoint. Is this something we know
infallibly, or could we be wrong. DM
obvious, JD. You do. This is what humility is all about. We hear our
brothers and sisters give their testimony, and when we find that our
understanding does not mesh with their understanding, we begin the
investigation to see whether we have it right or wrong. We start by
determining the foundation for our viewpoint. Is this something we know
infallibly, or could we be wrong. DM
Do you believe God gives you the writers "intent" or not ------------ via the indwelling Spirit?That has been your stated view in the past. You have mentioned on several occasions that you have no formal education in religion -- implying (IMO -- correct me if I am wrong) that with you and the Spirit revealing the mind of God, formal education is really not needed ---- neither is group discussion except for the above occasion:
What you mean to say in the above is this: God has given you DM, the intent of the scriptures in question and, if someone disagrees with your not-interpretation (read: revealed truth), then you can sit down, discuss the differences and, if the listening student has the heart, he will be led by the Spirit to the very same conclusion. Correct?
JD
-----Original Message-----
From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:45:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
JD wrote: > I speak as of a postulated "fact." I could > always be wrong -- no denying that. Well, it does get a little confusing. First you say fact, now you say postulated fact. First you say there is no alternative, now you say there might be an alternative that you have never considered. JD wrote: > Who determines that I (for example) have missed the > intended meaning of any given passage? Especially > in view of the demonstrated fact that nothing that I > believe in terms of theology is without biblical reference > .............................. nothing. Who determines that you have missed the intended meaning? The answer is obvious, JD. You do. This is what humility is all about. We hear our brothers and sisters give their testimony, and when we find that our understanding does not mesh with their understanding, we begin the investigation to see whether we have it right or wrong. We start by determining the foundation for our viewpoint. Is this something we know infallibly, or could we be wrong. Most of you guys can probably skip this step because you do not believe there is anything that can be known infallibly. The next step is to consider the opposing viewpoint. Does our brother or sister know with a surety what they speak about, or are they speculating? What is the foundation for their viewpoint? How does their view fit in with passages that we might consider to be out of sync with their viewpoint? Ultimately, we are accountable to God and so we are the ones who determine whether or not we got it wrong. The Bible tells us how we can know those who are of the spirit of error, and those who are not. 1 John 4:6 (6) We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 1 John 2:19 (19) They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
