I don’t think God had a “Plan
B”, but always foreknew what Adam and Eve would do, being made of mere
flesh. Redemption was not Plan B, but Plan A. I think we agree on
that. However you seem confused about the fact that Christ fulfilled the
law so we don’t have to. Yes, we do have to, as He was our Example
to follow. No, we don’t keep the Levitical rites or the Talmud (man’s
teaching), as they have no place in our lives where there is no temple and we
are not under a Theocratic government as the Jews were. But we ARE to keep
the Commandments of God throughout scripture, from Genesis to Revelations that
apply to everyone. If you wonder if it is a commandment we should keep,
better to err on the side of obeying it! We are to MORE than keep them, we are
to keep the heart and meaning of them, which means going above and beyond them
by walking not only in the outer form of obedience to them but by walking in
love from the inner Holy Spirit infused heart. His Commandments are outer
guidelines by which we can test our inner heart. If we cannot keep even
the outer shell of the Commandments of God, how then can we think we are even close to walking in the love of God or man?
Jesus did not fulfill the Law so that we could violate or ignore the Law.
He came to make it possible and reasonable for us to KEEP His
Commandments. This is something that any Believer can and should
do. But one must be born again of the Spirit to become a Believer, and
then must walk in faith that he is empowered to do so. Iz John
14:15 John
14:21 Exodus
20:6 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know you can't be more brief -- but could
you be more specific as in "why 'no'?" I know that David
and Judy opt out of answering difficult questions
-- what about you. Specifically, what is wrong with what I
have said below? JD No. From:
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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is something i wrote to a friend about the Garde even and perichoresis. Am I on the right track with
this? I am not one who believes in a "plan B" redemptive
theology, put into play when God's original plan failed.
Christ was always the solution to Adam and Eve's
problem, as He is for us in this day and time. I am saying
this: the story of Adam and Eve has been included in the Message
because of its role in our understanding the
purpose of the Law of God -- something that
has been fulfilled in Christ and no longer applies to God's judgment of
us. What we see with Adam and Eve is the first accounting of a Law
violation. It is one thing to be selfish, prideful<
/SPAN>, bigoted and the
like. That goes to our personal ontology. It is
something else to violate an imperative from God, Himself. Such a
violation forces upon us a pathology of guilt. I am a selfish
person. But I do not feel guilt until I actually express that
selfishness in an ungodly way -- and the Law
defines that ungodliness. In the Old Testament, God
orders something, man violates this request, God is angered and judgment occures,
man repents and via a blood sacrifice, man is righteous once
again........................... a process that is repeated over and over and
over again.
Under the New Covenant, Christ dies ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME, does He
not? As a violation of the Law, sin is condemned to have no effect
upon our destiny -- AS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
But with the removal of this
curse, we remain unholy. The struggle is of a New
Paradigm. With the fulfillment of the Law,&n bsp; man
and God are free to build upon and magnify the relationship between man and
God -- God working within
us both to will and do His good pleasure. The Law proves our unrighteousness --
gives it definition and a pathological reality that is undeniable. God's sacrifice and workings in His Son in our
lives gives us an escape from this process while, at the same time,
standing as a historical
reminder that our goodness is really Godness< FONT face=Verdana size=2> from
within. Read John 3:21 - we work, we come to the
light and in this light it becomes clear (manifest) that our works HAVE
BEEN the works of God (and I add the words "all
along"). |
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