> [Original Message]
> From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
> Date: 11/3/2005 5:08:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions
>
> It seems to me, David, that Paul observed some of the Jewish traditions
> because he wanted to be all things to all people in order to win the
> lost. Not because the law any longer required this.
>
> I am a Gentile, adopted into the family, and was never under the law.
cd: Pardon my intrusion Terry- but you were condeemed by the Law and upon
belief in Christ you were brought from under the law-ever sinner is
condeemed under the law. Consider it as going to a local town and breaking
windows-before you broke the windows the law had no claim on you but after
breaking the windows the law had a claim against you.
> I have the freedom to worship on any day of the week or every day of the
> week. I can eat any food forbidden by the law without affecting my
> relationship to my Savior. Why then, would one adopted into the family
> have more freedom than one who was born a Jew? What am I missing here?
> Terry
Terry the Jews do have stricter requirements then Gentiles-Paul keep the
Law blamless and still kept the feasts -as David pointed out. In Acts
15-19-21. there is a hint to the difference between Jew and
gentile-requirements. Those listed in verse 19 were problem areas that
gentiles had pertulicar problems with but Jews are required to keep the
feasts of Israel-The feasts of Tabanacles isn't fulfilled as of yet.I will
agree that there is no distiction for salvation.
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>
> David Miller wrote:
>
> > David Miller wrote:
> >
> >>> Maybe it is you who do not understand what this
> >>> New Testament Pharisee meant when he said,
> >>> "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness"
> >>> (Romans 10:4).
> >>
> >
> > John wrote:
> >
> >> What do you have in mind?
> >
> >
> > Well, you had started out by writing:
> >
> >> The church was never "right" based on its
> >> collective understanding of the Message.
> >
> >
> > Yet, apostle Paul wrote that the church of the living God is the
> > pillar and ground of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15). If the church was never
> > "right" in its collective understanding, then where is the truth to be
> > found after Christ ascended? My perspective is that the truth
> > continues on earth, found in the body of Christ. Hence, 1 Cor. 12
> > argues that Christ is not like the mute idols which the Corinthians
> > had previously followed, but rather Christ has the power of speech,
> > and it is through the members of his body (his church, the collective
> > of saints in a local community).
> >
> > You speak of the understanding that "Christ is the end of the law for
> > righteousness" as being something that would cause Jews to stop
> > keeping their feast days and sabbath observances. Yet, the very man
> > who wrote this statement was, in fact, an observant Pharisee who
> > continued to keep all of these things. Therefore, it seems to me that
> > your perspective of the meaning of this phrase is at odds with the
> > author of the statement. I would suggest that the word "end" here
> > must have the same connotation as when Jesus said, "I am the Alpha and
> > Omega." It does not mean extinction or termination of the law, but
> > rather refers to the fulfillment of the goal. It carries a meaning
> > more analogous to how we speak of the "end of man," referring not to
> > man's termination or removal, but rather to his ultimate purpose and
> > fulfillment in life, his reason for existing.
> >
> > Peace be with you.
> > David Miller.
> > ----------
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> > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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