Leviticus 27:34 The law was given to Moses for the children of Israel.
It was never intended for Gentiles. The new testament writings of Paul
make this pretty clear, at least to me. I do not have ten commandments
or six hundred rules. I have two commandments given by my Savior to
His followers. I have trouble keeping those two.
Terry
Dean Moore wrote:
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From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Date: 11/3/2005 5:08:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions
It seems to me, David, that Paul observed some of the Jewish traditions
because he wanted to be all things to all people in order to win the
lost. Not because the law any longer required this.
I am a Gentile, adopted into the family, and was never under the law.
cd: Pardon my intrusion Terry- but you were condeemed by the Law and upon
belief in Christ you were brought from under the law-ever sinner is
condeemed under the law. Consider it as going to a local town and breaking
windows-before you broke the windows the law had no claim on you but after
breaking the windows the law had a claim against you.
I have the freedom to worship on any day of the week or every day of the
week. I can eat any food forbidden by the law without affecting my
relationship to my Savior. Why then, would one adopted into the family
have more freedom than one who was born a Jew? What am I missing here?
Terry
Terry the Jews do have stricter requirements then Gentiles-Paul keep the
Law blamless and still kept the feasts -as David pointed out. In Acts
15-19-21. there is a hint to the difference between Jew and
gentile-requirements. Those listed in verse 19 were problem areas that
gentiles had pertulicar problems with but Jews are required to keep the
feasts of Israel-The feasts of Tabanacles isn't fulfilled as of yet.I will
agree that there is no distiction for salvation.
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David Miller wrote:
David Miller wrote:
Maybe it is you who do not understand what this
New Testament Pharisee meant when he said,
"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness"
(Romans 10:4).
John wrote:
What do you have in mind?
Well, you had started out by writing:
The church was never "right" based on its
collective understanding of the Message.
Yet, apostle Paul wrote that the church of the living God is the
pillar and ground of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15). If the church was never
"right" in its collective understanding, then where is the truth to be
found after Christ ascended? My perspective is that the truth
continues on earth, found in the body of Christ. Hence, 1 Cor. 12
argues that Christ is not like the mute idols which the Corinthians
had previously followed, but rather Christ has the power of speech,
and it is through the members of his body (his church, the collective
of saints in a local community).
You speak of the understanding that "Christ is the end of the law for
righteousness" as being something that would cause Jews to stop
keeping their feast days and sabbath observances. Yet, the very man
who wrote this statement was, in fact, an observant Pharisee who
continued to keep all of these things. Therefore, it seems to me that
your perspective of the meaning of this phrase is at odds with the
author of the statement. I would suggest that the word "end" here
must have the same connotation as when Jesus said, "I am the Alpha and
Omega." It does not mean extinction or termination of the law, but
rather refers to the fulfillment of the goal. It carries a meaning
more analogous to how we speak of the "end of man," referring not to
man's termination or removal, but rather to his ultimate purpose and
fulfillment in life, his reason for existing.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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