Leviticus 27:34 The law was given to Moses for the children of Israel.
It was never intended for Gentiles. The new testament writings of Paul
make this pretty clear, at least to me. I do not have ten commandments
or six hundred rules. I have two commandments given by my Savior to
His followers. I have trouble keeping those two. Terry Dean Moore wrote: [Original Message] From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Date: 11/3/2005 5:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditionsIt seems to me, David, that Paul observed some of the Jewish traditions because he wanted to be all things to all people in order to win the lost. Not because the law any longer required this. I am a Gentile, adopted into the family, and was never under the law.cd: Pardon my intrusion Terry- but you were condeemed by the Law and upon belief in Christ you were brought from under the law-ever sinner is condeemed under the law. Consider it as going to a local town and breaking windows-before you broke the windows the law had no claim on you but after breaking the windows the law had a claim against you.I have the freedom to worship on any day of the week or every day of the week. I can eat any food forbidden by the law without affecting my relationship to my Savior. Why then, would one adopted into the family have more freedom than one who was born a Jew? What am I missing here? TerryTerry the Jews do have stricter requirements then Gentiles-Paul keep the Law blamless and still kept the feasts -as David pointed out. In Acts 15-19-21. there is a hint to the difference between Jew and gentile-requirements. Those listed in verse 19 were problem areas that gentiles had pertulicar problems with but Jews are required to keep the feasts of Israel-The feasts of Tabanacles isn't fulfilled as of yet.I will agree that there is no distiction for salvation.==================================================================== David Miller wrote:David Miller wrote:Maybe it is you who do not understand what this New Testament Pharisee meant when he said, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness" (Romans 10:4).John wrote:What do you have in mind?Well, you had started out by writing:The church was never "right" based on its collective understanding of the Message.Yet, apostle Paul wrote that the church of the living God is the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15). If the church was never "right" in its collective understanding, then where is the truth to be found after Christ ascended? My perspective is that the truth continues on earth, found in the body of Christ. Hence, 1 Cor. 12 argues that Christ is not like the mute idols which the Corinthians had previously followed, but rather Christ has the power of speech, and it is through the members of his body (his church, the collective of saints in a local community). You speak of the understanding that "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness" as being something that would cause Jews to stop keeping their feast days and sabbath observances. Yet, the very man who wrote this statement was, in fact, an observant Pharisee who continued to keep all of these things. Therefore, it seems to me that your perspective of the meaning of this phrase is at odds with the author of the statement. I would suggest that the word "end" here must have the same connotation as when Jesus said, "I am the Alpha and Omega." It does not mean extinction or termination of the law, but rather refers to the fulfillment of the goal. It carries a meaning more analogous to how we speak of the "end of man," referring not to man's termination or removal, but rather to his ultimate purpose and fulfillment in life, his reason for existing. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. |
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