Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?

knpraise Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:59:22 -0800

Absolutely.

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From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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This is one of the tough questions I struggle with, John. Makes me realise just how little I know. Hopefully bydiscussing the tough ones we can all grow.
Terry

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I will surrender by allotted time to Senator Taylor. If he has not the time to respond -- a very good question, by the way -- I will venture a biblical apologetic of some sort.

I appreciate the New Terry. I think you have added much to the forum - even when we might disagree.

And to be honest about it -- I have a predetermined bias on this subject. I will need to slow down a bit to insure that this bias does not get in the way. Dean's solution -- in the end - is the same as mine. But his is a legal solution and mine is grace based.

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From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Both you and JD seem to think that these two should stay in their adulterous relationship. I want to say the same thing, for the benefit of the children if for no other reason. Fact is though, that I cannot reconcile that line of reasoning with God's word.

John, the baptizer lost his head for condemning the same situation between Herod and Herodious. If it is wrong for Mr. and Mrs. Herod, it is wrong for Mr. and Mrs. Verage. When John said," You cannot have her", the message is that God will not approve of people living in adultery. I can find no exception in the new testament. Could either of you do more to justify your position? I would also like to hear the thinking of Bill and David M. on this.
Terry

Dean Moore wrote:

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From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: 11/5/2005 8:47:47 AM
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cd: Tell me more about this adulterous relationship? Thanks.

cd: I understand now-I had read the letter as the young ones are in the
adulterous relationship. I am going to step out on a limb and say let a
person remain in the state in which they were called and hope I am not
going beyond Paul's teachings.If you are called married stay married. The
sin was in breaking the first covenant with the husband-once abandoned they
are free to marry only in the Lord.Confess that sin and go on with life.

[Original Message]
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Date: 11/4/2005 10:41:13 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?

I have run into the following situation at least twice.  Some of you 
probably have too.  Here it is.

Sally was cheer leader in high school.  If you were to choose a mate 
strictly on physical appearance, she would be right up there among the 
top five.  Billy was the typical small town football hero.  Billy went 
for Sally because of her looks.  Sally went for Billy because he was 
somebody, a big duck in a little puddle.  They married right out of

high

school.
Billy was a big guy in a small town, but when the college coaches went 
shopping for recruits, they did not stop in Billy's town.  No 
scholarship, not even an offer.  Billy ended up driving the town

garbage

truck.  The marriage lasted a little over a year.  Sally felt cheated.  
She deserved better, so she filed for a no fault divorce.

The following spring she met Joe A. Verage.  Joe was the son of the 
owner of the local super market.  Joe, in fact, was manager of the 
market, making a good salary, and sure to inherit the business when the 
old man passed on.  In time, Joe and Sally were married, and in more 
time they had a couple of kids.  About the time the first kid turned 
nine, they went to a Billy Graham crusade and were saved.  They started 
attending church, then started attending Sunday school and everything 
went well for a couple of more years, then they started reading the 
Bible.  Eventually they discovered that they seemed to be living living 
in an adulterous relationship.
This bothered them a lot, and so they asked the pastor to tell them

what

to do about this.

You are the pastor.  What do you tell them?
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