Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

[knpraise]

Get back to me when you come to a fair analysis of what I believe this passage is all about, will you? 

 

I am certainly not using this passage for a license to commit all manner of sin.   If you think that I have,  please present the reference and I will be glad to give it some meaningful context   (how am I doing,  Pastor Lance?). 

 

Jd 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:29:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

Read it over again JD.  Romans 14 - Verses 1,2,3 are what Vs 4 relates to and it is all about vegetarian vs non vegetarian and judging a weaker believer on these grounds.  It does not give license for every kind of sin which is how you consistently use it.  Context JD, context.

 

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:11:53 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

first of all,  "meats" is not the issue being discussed.   Judging the servant of another is.   The issues surrounding the eating of meats and observing holy days gave Paul the circustance to discussion the principle described in 14:4.   You need to practice what you preach.  Jd 

 

From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

JD why do you hang everything on meats which is what is under dispute in Romans 14.

In other places believers are told not to even eat with a brother given over to certain sins such as

fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind, thieves, drunkards,

revilers, extortioners - because none of these inherit the kingdom of God.  Where do you find such a

truncated gospel?  You need to read the whole Bible - not just the parts that agree with your doctrine.  jt

 

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:48:41 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nowhere in the Bible am I told to respect the belief of others.  cd

 

"Why do you judge the servant of another.  to his own master does he stand or fall AND HE WILL BE MADE TO STAND FOR GOD IS ABLE TO MAKE HIM STAND.   "   ( Romans 14:4)

 

 

Romans 14 is all about respecting the beliefs of another to the exclusion of any other theme  !!!  I Cor 8:1ff really has the same theme in mind, as well.   How in world did you miss this ??

 

Jd

 

 

 

 

 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
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Sent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 05:41:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Amen!  God says "Woe unto those who call evil good"

We are to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove them; for it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.  But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light; for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (Eph 5:11-13)

I expect to see some thankful ex Mormons counted with the sheep in the last day because of the Street Preachers' obedience.... along with ex homosexuals and lesbians from the UF.  judyt

 

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:31:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" <cd_moore@earthlink.net> writes:

cd: If this is a tool Satan uses to harm souls-then it should be exposed and mocked. Not respected-I don't expect any Churches whom most are of Calvinists orgins anyway who have "hirelin" Pastors to recieve us-why should they we give away freely what they charge for-so no problem John. Nowhere in the Bible am I told to respect the belief of others. I am however told to tear down anything that exalts itself against-that I will do-Lord willing.

ALL I DID WAS ASK A QUESTION?  Do you know what a "question" is Dean?   Do you know what a question is not?   I don't think so.   I could care less about your explanation on the use of Mormon underwear.  It makes your ministry look ignorant and ACCOMPLISHES NO GOOD WHATSOEVER for the cause of Christ.   You do so much more harm than any fantasized good and that is probably the reason why so few churches support this kind of street preaching....   In fact,  not a single church here in Fresno or the surrounding area supports this kind of "preaching."    But of course, they are all wrong and you and smudge mouth are right.   Go figure.   JD

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Sent: 11/21/2005 11:00:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Just asking  -------   who said anything about being drunk?   I mean, you guys wave men's underwear around , so why not chew.  Whatever. 

 

cd: You had mentioned me "sobering up" before- I don't chew tobacco-And the Mormons claim that their underwear is Holy-a sign of their royal Melchizedek Priesthood which is worn under their clothing as we are not worthy to view these holy objects-They are easy to obtain for the local pawn shops as many are getting rid of them. We hold them up and declare that true holiness is to live by the gospel of Christ which is an inner cleanliness not an outer cleanliness. The Mormons have to leave them on even while taking a bath-They slide them to one side and wash one half of their bodies at a time.

 
From: Dean Moore <cd_moore@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:51:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

cd: No I did not have a wad of chew and I am not drunk-Have you not heard of edification to the brethren?

 

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Sent: 11/21/2005 11:05:30 AM

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

I'm in the house to get some coffee and off to the shop  --  but,  who is Dean in the video?   The  guy with the hat, who looks like he has  a wad of chew?   Nothing wrong with that, by the way.    Apparently most believing perichoresis types also chew !!  But is that Dean? 

 

JD 

 

Bye for now.   

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:58:11 -0800
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

DAVEH:  Thank you for sharing that, Kevin.  After watching Dean preach, I do not understand why he claims not to protest Mormonism.  Seems to me that is exactly what he was doing.  Do you disagree?

    BTW.........I rather like the tag line, as it speaks volumes:   Real Christians behave like Christians.

Kevin Deegan wrote:

Have you ever protested at an LDS Conference in SLC, or at the site of an LDS Temple or chapel?  If not....would you do so?  If so, then you would meet the one of the criteria of being an anti-Mormon as LDS folks have coined it.  If you haven't done any of those things (or others that might qualify you for that label), then perhaps I owe you an apology, Dean.

 

Dean is FEATURED on this ANTI-CHRISTIAN site.

What EXACTLY is he saying that is wrong here?http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/media/street03bh.wmv

Allen L. Wyatt, "Anti-Mormon Protesters at the April 2003 LDS General Conference," (Mesa, Arizona: FAIR, April 2003) In this short video clip, an anti-Mormon protester at the April 2003 General Conference shouts his opinions about the Book of Mormon, drowning out nearby missionaries trying to sing hymns. Another protester waves temple garments at passersby.

ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

DaveH, please let me dissuade you from the false assumption that being called "anti-mormon" by mormons bothers anyone any more than being called a "homophobe" by sodomites.  It only makes the name-caller feel better, but falls on the ground beyond that.  iz

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

 

DAVEH:   I can only view you from my perspective, Dean.   And my perspective is that I believe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord's True Church. 

    Have you ever protested at an LDS Conference in SLC, or at the site of an LDS Temple or chapel?  If not....would you do so?  If so, then you would meet the one of the criteria of being an anti-Morm on as & lt; SPAN class=correction id="">LDS folks have coined it.  If you haven't done any of those things (or others that mig ht qualify you for that label), then perhaps I owe you an apology, De an.

Dean Moore wrote:

Dean Moore wrote:

 cd: Dave satisfy my curiosity. As I answered your questions here

DAVEH:   Yes, and I thank you for that, Dean.  Because of that I'll be happy to reciprocate, even though you are an anti-Mormon.

cd: I would be helpful if you viewed me as anti-sin, pro-God, anti-antiChrist:-) As I am not focused on just the Mormon cult but all cults and false teachings-this you will learn if you pay attention. Labels only lead to misunderstanding of others and confuses their beliefs.

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