In all sincerity, Judy, don't you see the irony in
your endeavor? When you write or speak, you want others to listen to you. You
feel entitled to that. The proof of this: when they don't listen, you feel like
you have been dissed. Why? because you think you have something important and
truthful to say. In this you are no different from anyone else. But what is your
message? Don't listen to the words of Barth (or Torrance, or Calvin, or
Anthanasius, or Nazianzus, or Newbigin, or, or, or) listen instead to me:
I'll tell you what the Word means, for I have the Holy Spirit
-- blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. In this you are a theologian
extraordinaire.
Perhaps the words of Jesus are in order: "Do unto
others as you would have them do to you."
Bill
The words you speak concerning His
ppl? IYO could Barth smarten them up?
Or should we listen to Paul who writes that we
already have the mind of Christ?
It's not God's fault.
Not a very loving evaluation of God's
workmanship Bill
Lots of men have spent a "lifetime" preaching
some agenda or another - only those who 'in obedience' are speaking
God's oracles will receive a reward and I don't hold much hope for those
who add to or take from THE WRITTEN RECORD.
The book has already been written Bill.
jt
PS: Of course he's a theologian...
You know, it just amazes me. One could
stand up and preach for a lifetime and maybe, just maybe, be
considered a great man of God (although that is even doubtful). But
put those words in a book and Oh NO! now he's a theologian.
Christians are so stupid.
Bill
Judy, let's assume that we could take all the
words you've posted to TT and bind them together in a book. What
would it number, say, maybe 9000 pages? Would a single one of them
be worth reading? What were you attempting to do with those words,
if not to unfold the revealed word attested in the Bible? You see,
Judy, you still think that everyone is doing theology except you.
Okay, please tell me what it is you think you are
doing.
Fellowshipping with other "believers" on
an internet forum; and speaking God's truth with others
who seek to walk in it?
You will try in vain to get me into an argument
over Karl Barth. I just simply won't do it. If you are interested
in the man, then read his works or the works of his students; they
are manifest and quite approachable. If not then please move on.
None of the criticisms you share are new or revelatory.
Unless you have been living in a bath tub, you,
along with millions of other Christians, have been
well-misinformed about this man. Bill
So you are not prepared to give account
for the hope that is in you with regard to Barth Bill?
Everything I have read about him so far has been dialectic and
nothing is definitive. Hardly the kind of atmosphere where
faith grows.
Bill writes: "It will take many
years, I'm sure, before Barth will be allowed to speak for
himself to the conservative community. In the meantime
Evangelical Christians will be missing out on one of the greatest voices the Church
has ever known.
I'm curious about what you find so great
Bill... What does Barth say in the more than 9,000 pages
of his Dogmatic that we can not learn through the grace and
mercy of God from His Own Word? Was Barth inspired or
misguided in his belief that the "task of theology is to unfold
the revealed word attested in the Bible" when Jesus' own Words
teach us that this is the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives
of those who believe and follow Him?
The very size of the Dogmatics.
Mascall said that it takes so much time to
read this theologian of the word that no time is left to
read the Word itself. His (Barth's) style is
majestic, and difficult.
From 1932 to 1967 he (Barth) worked on his Church
Dogmatics, a multivolume work that was unfinished at his
death. It consists of 13 parts in four volumes, running
altogether to more than 9,000 pages.
Although he changed some of his early positions, he continued to
maintain that the task of theology is to
unfold the revealed word attested in the Bible, and that
there is no place for natural theology or the influence of
non-Christian religions. His theology depended on a distinction
between the Word (i.e., God's self-revelation as concretely
manifested in Christ) and religion.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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