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So you know better than the Bible - or you are out
beyond the Bible. Whichever it is Lance you apparently think
it gives you the ability and licence to critique
everything that comes along. I find it quite amazing that you
appear
to think that you and you alone know the
difference between a discerning and a naive "believer" while ATST
since you have been on this list I have not once seen
you differentiate between the holy and the profane.
Judy:THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, JT, YOU DO BELIEVE THE
BIBLE!! DM ALSO BELIEVES THE BIBLE! Wherein there lies coincidence between
that which God Himself says and, that which you've (both) interpreted the
Bible to say then Praise God. Wherein that is not so then, it is at best
harmles to the discerning believer and, at worst, dangerous to the naive
believer.
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Sent: January 14, 2006 21:59
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The
mystery of Judy's gospel
1. You believe that unregenerated man cannot do what is
right. You have stated that many times in the past. I
was just hoping that you good explain how that can be true with the
example of Nineveh hanging over this theological conclusion.
I have no problem with unregenerated man
repenting and this is what the ppl of Nineveh did; when one
have no theological boxes there is no
problem.
2. Secondly, you believe that Christ stopped being God in
spite of the oft quoted (by you) passage "God is the
same yesterday, today, and forever." I was
hoping for an explanation of this, as well.
No worries JD. Yesterday he was God the
Word, today He is God the Word, and this will be his place
in the Godhead forever. Actually you do not
quote correctly JD. It is Jesus Christ, the same
yesterday,
today and forever.
Ask me a question, Judy, about my beliefs and I will be glad to
answer it emphatically , not fearing being "set up." I do
not mind being responsible for what I consider to be
true. Could you please do the same? I
doubt anyone on this forum can tell the rest of us what you
believe. Seriously jd
That's easy JD. I BELIEVE THE
BIBLE
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From: Judy Taylor
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God is the Creator of the ppl in Nineveh also
and He is merciful and longsuffering enough
to want to give them one more chance which they
took for a measure of time even though they
regressed later and were eventually
destroyed. Their response to Jonah's
warning bought
them some time but unfortunately they did
not gain eternity.
And what does that have to do with the people of Nineveh?
They don't have to have the
Spirit to do right as long as the preacher has the Spirit?
jd
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes ... and Jonah was called by God
and anointed to speak by the Spirit of God..
But aren't you the one who preaches that one cannot do
the works of God without the Spirit of God?
jd
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Death reigned from Adam to Moses and it
reigned over Nineveh in Jonah's day.. So obviously
the wages of sin is death with or
without a written Law. Jonah called on these people to
repent
and they did do that in sackcloth and
ashes... even without theological permission.
well, Nineveh was not under the Law. Jonah does not
call them to the Law.
And it is the Law that defines sin to be
sin. Can sin exist apart from the
law?
Paul says it does. Jonah is certainly not
calling them to live their lives as the
Jews lived theirs !! jd
I'm with Bill on this one.
God is with Bill on this one, IMO, of course.
I'm not surprised since
you and Bill are so into culture and all that - but don't
bring God into your folly.
The pagan Persian City of
Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke
11:32) And what do you
suppose his message
to them was?
How interesting - Debbie Sawzak
is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his
doctrine that claims one must
be regenerated before it is
possible to repent because of "total depravity" and this
comes out of a misunderstanding of the spiritual
realities involved.
Is repentance part of the Gospel?
Yes, the NT is replete with directives to repent. But
repentance is not a means by which or through which
people are saved. It is Jesus Christ who is our
Savior. Salvation is in him, complete with mediation
on our behalf. Repentance is therefore our
response to the greatest news the world has ever
heard; it is our response to the good news of Jesus
Christ. Amen.
Lance, I now see what you meant
today about the exchange bw Bill and David, having
read the full message from Bill. The above is the
crux, isn't it? It (esp the part I bolded) reminds me
of what Victor said numerous times in his Human Person
course: I know Christ first of all, before anything
else, as my Saviour. The accountability, the
repentance, arise out of that.
D
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