so there is no way that this would be
the same concept Bill.
Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us in
"their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).
Yes they did created the first Adam
in their nature and character spiritually - which "likeness"
Adam forfeited when he chose to go with Eve into disobedience by
eating the wrong fruit.
Thereafter all men (including us) are
born into this world by
procreation in the likeness of
the first Adam rather than the
likeness of God (Gen 5:3)
The only possible way to
regain the image of God lost by the first Adam is to become
conformed to the image of the second
Adam which is the sole purpose for His coming
and His willingness to lay down His
human life as a perfect sacrifice in our place.
Laying aside the fact that you are making much too
much of Seth having been born in the image of Adam (see Gen 9.6 and answer for
me what would be wrong, then, with killing someone who was no longer
created in God's image, but in Adam's), Judy, I fail to understand why that
should even prevent Christ from being united in his person, his humanness with
his divinity. The only thing which could have severed that union was the one
thing which he did not do: sin. Hence in his person, he was able to undo that
which had indeed produced schizophrenia in the relationship between
humanity and God. And were he not like us in every way, he could not have
produced this reconciliation; for what he would have done in a flesh unlike our
own would have had no bearing upon human flesh, and we would therefore still be
in sin.
Bill
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so there is no way that this
would be the same concept Bill.
Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us in
"their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).
Yes they did created the first
Adam in their nature and character spiritually - which "likeness"
Adam forfeited when he chose to go with Eve into disobedience by
eating the wrong fruit.
Thereafter all men (including us)
are born into this world
by procreation in the likeness of
the first Adam rather than the
likeness of God (Gen 5:3)
The only possible way to
regain the image of God lost by the first Adam is to
become
conformed to the image of the
second Adam which is the sole purpose for His coming
and His willingness to lay down
His human life as a perfect sacrifice in our place.
.
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:31
AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and what
schism?
Oh, I thought you were married. The bible
says that you and your husband (if you had one) were to become "one"
flesh, in other words the two of you in coming together would be united
-- and not just physically, I might add; it is the marriage "union"
after all. The same is true with God. The bible teaches that the Lord is
"one" and it uses the same word when saying this; hence there is a
oneness or unity within the nature of God, a coming together of a
plurality in union.
God is a Spirit (Jn 4:24) so
there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill. Sure the
Godhead are One and united
in Spirit.
And so, since you suggested that if Christ
be fully God and fully human there must be a schism, I was just
wondering about the schism you have with your man. Why instead of schism
aren't you united?
In marriage between humans it
is "one flesh" Bill
There would only be a schism between the
two natures of Christ if there were disunity between the two.
The person of Christ had no disunity; hence
no schism. Bill
There would have been
disunity "big time" if he had a human nature - just like us and was in
fact wholly God ATST; schizophrenic
would be the right
term. Also "Flesh and blood DO NOT inherit God's Kingdom" Bill so
what would be the purpose??
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and what
schism?
And while you're at it, will you
explain your schism with your husband, too?
(If this needs clarification, just
ask)
Bill
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2006 5:24 AM
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love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE
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Sent: 1/14/2006 1:07:17 PM
Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS
NOTDIVINE
Dean,
I think this is where "theology" gets
itself tied in knots. This is what JD has been accusing me of
for so long.
How ironic that his mentor Bill
would write something like this. I think Lance just
repeated it to qualify something.
So their Jesus must have a schism in his personality (or
nature). What about his saying to Philip "If you have
seen me you have seen the Father" We know he wasn't
speaking of his physical body here; so does God
The Father also have a schismatic
personality.
cd: Judy can you define your usage of
'schismatic'.
Well, yes and no, DH. I
am included in that circle of love in the way that
Christ's humanity is included in that relationship. But as the humanity of Christ is not
divine, neither am I divine.
cd: Lance at this point- How do you define
"Divine"?
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