He is like us in every respect. According to you, this means that he is not like us, only similar to us.
When we speak of human beings, we can only speak of "being like" another. There is no other way of saying it !! Either I am like you or I am you. There are no other choices. And when the man says "like you in every respect" you deny the biblical witness . The fact of the matter is this -- you do not believe that He was like us at all !!!
Did He have the same nature we have? No (according to you.) Would He actually be tempted as we are ? No. Did He have to discipline Himself when it came to matters of lusts, dishonesty, conceit? No Did He have to learn the issues of human life? No When a child, was he like all other children? No So how is it that He is similar to us IN EVERY RESPECT when you deny that He is like us at all???
jd
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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It's not Dean who needs to do the rethinking Bill:"Likeness means just what it says ie: resemblance or similitude"A zircon is not a diamond - it is a "likeness", it resembles one.Jesus was made in the likeness of men (see Phil 2:7, Romans 8:3)
From: "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dean wrote: Christ came in the lower state for death on the cross thereby defeating
Satan-for victory-not to spend His life warring against sin in His members-for victory.Bill writes: You might want to rethink that one, Dean:"For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God
did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of
sin: He condemned sin in the flesh" (Rom 8.3).
From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
> > Date: 1/27/2006 5:12:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
> >
> > Judy wrote:
> > > ATST Bill it is insulting to me - (and perhaps Dean
> > > also) for the ppl mentioned above to make the claim
> > > that Jesus' humanity "so called" included an Adamic
> > > sinful nature when scripture clearly records that he is
> > > the Lord from heaven (the same yesterday, today,
> > > and forever)and that He is the second Adam.
> >
> > Eph. 2:6 speaks of how we as believers are raised up together in
heavenly
> > places in Christ Jesus. So in Christ, we too are "from heaven" so to
> speak
> > now that we are in Christ, but this does not mean that we do not have
> within
> > our bodies a sinful nature. We must die to that sinful nature daily,
> even
> > as Jesus did. It is insulting to me that you do not think Jesus
> struggled
> > against the temptations of his flesh, that he did not live a life of
self
> > denial. To think that the Lord of glory would command us to do what he
> > himself never had to do.... I truly think you will be apologizing to
> Jesus
> > one day for not understanding how much he condescended to us men and
> women
> > of low estate. It is like someone climbing into the pig sty to save a
> pig,
> > and then his wife or someone close to that person claiming that he never
> got
> > dirty when he did it. They are insulted that anyone would dare suggest
> that
> > their loved one ever appeared in public filthy dirty. Well, maybe he is
> > insulted that this person does not recognize the sacrifice and
> condescension
> > he underwent to save the pig. Maybe he would prefer for people to
> > understand the humiliation that he suffered in order to save the pig.
>
> cd: In the parable of a clean swine returning to his filth (dirt-as you
use
> it)-the filth (dirt) is sin and Christ never sinned for the need to be
> cleansed or return to sin or ever got any dirt on Himself so to use Him
(ie
> :someone" in the above) in this manner is error. David do you believe that
> we grow to a deeper area of sanctification to where even the thoughts of
> sin can be kept at a distance? I do and view Christ as being more Holy
than
> this type of holiness.Christ came in the lower state for death on the
cross
> thereby defeating Satan-for victory-not to spend His life warring against
> sin in His members- for victory.
> >
> > David Miller.
> >
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