Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

[Lance Muir]

Apostacizing a possibility? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 04, 2006 09:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)       ----- Original Message ----- From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/3/2006 11:12:45 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) cd: Yes-that is why God will hold these sins to their accountably.To think otherwise would make the God we know a mean Spirit who punishes his creation for doing something that they could not help     "Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation."   -- 2Corinthians 5.18-19 cd: Yes he removed transgressions from those whom came to receive Christ but what about those who return to sin or those who reject Christ-are you saying they are accountable for doing something they cannot help but to do? cd: Bill tell me how do you receive the below verse to mean? It is in English and the words are connected to meaning behind the words-what do you think those connections illustrate? 2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)       ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/3/2006 8:17:00 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) IFF even one (1) was "able to keep God's commandments before Christ went up to heaven and sent the Holy Ghost to help us in this area (Acts)" then, might we rightly assume that EVERYONE WAS ABLE?   cd: Yes-that is why God will hold these sins to their accountably.To think otherwise would make the God we know a mean Spirit who punishes his creation for doing something that they could not help but to do-and He would then not be God.At least not a God I would want to serve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 03, 2006 08:10 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)   I may have misread you, Dean, but you seem to say above that John the Baptist's "parents were post ascension." The "ascension" took place after the resurrection of Jesus, when he left this earth to sit at his Father's right hand. Zacharias and Elizabeth were both quite old when JB was born and had probably even died prior to the ascension. I am a little confused as to what you mean when you write that they were post-ascension. Elsewhere you state that "Christ has a flesh body and ate fish even after the accention." I assume you meant to say "ascension" here and if so, I was not aware of any Scripture which speaks of Jesus eating fish since having left to be with his Father. Could you please try to help me better understand what you're saying. ------------------------- cd: Respectfully Bill -I am speaking of post-ascension as a way of pointing out that Zac. and Elizabeth were able to keep God's commandments before Christ went up to heaven and sent the Holy Ghost to help us in this area (Acts 2)-so we have no excuse for not doing so.This is my attempt to strengthen the brethren. ------------------------- By the way, do you (and Judy) believe that JB's parents were born of "sinful flesh"? -----------------------------   cd: Yes I do Bill and I addressed this in another post to John today.   I evidently missed that one, Dean. Sorry about that. I was wondering if you also consider Zacharius and Elizabeth to have been been righteous and blameless before God.  --------------------------- cd: Yes I do Bill- but their born into sin from the flesh saw need for their salvation. ----------------------------   -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is believed to be clean.