[TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance

[Lance Muir]

----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 21, 2006 14:23 Subject: FW: Fw: Continuing repentance In other words, David does not seem to have taken the point about penance and our modern psychological equivalent.   And probably both views of repentance are true--both kinds are happening. The constant re-orienting, the constant checking the compass and correcting for deviation on the one hand, and the punctiliar turnings on the other.   D   From: Debbie Sawczak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:57 PM To: 'Lance Muir' Subject: RE: Fw: Continuing repentance I understand what he is saying about the one-time turn, but I don't think this is what Victor/Luther meant. They mean something more like that funny little cliche people used to say about Romans 12:1: the problem with a living sacrifice is that it keeps crawling off the altar. In other words, we tend to actually turn off the track, and have to turn again in order to get back onto it. Not the track of salvation or reconciliation, but the track of living (proceeding with our fifth act of the play, as it were, making our way through life in this world) out of our relationship to Christ, oriented to him. I would even say that sometimes, our turning off the track is a stumbling into the morass of self-willed morality.   Is JD also making the point that repentance is not a mournful act? Am I understanding him aright? If so, I heartily agree. Repentance is not the same as remorse or regret. Turning back to the right direction, turning back into harmony and intimacy with Christ, is surely a joyful act!   D    From: Lance Muir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:16 PM To: Debbie Sawczak Subject: Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance   ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lance Muir Sent: February 21, 2006 12:39 Subject: Re: Fw: Continuing repentance   David writes:  If we really were suppose to be in a constant state of repentance, this last phrase has no meaning.  Is such were so, we should then all be sad, mourning, without joy.     I have found, over the years, that Daivd does not appreciate a difference between "confessing" and "repenting."    The comments of James 4:8 have to do with "repentance,"  in the mind of David and that is why he says what he does in the above.  He does not seeem to consider thte fact that James is a leter written to those who have already "turned around."    If you are always respenting, then, you are always in sorrow.    If repentance is more than the point in time we turn around, if it extends to the walk extending from this "repenting,"   how is it possible that repentance is not on-going?    John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/265 - Release Date: 2/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/265 - Release Date: 2/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/265 - Release Date: 2/20/2006