Kevin did you note the referral to Christians and double standards by Dave in the Below. He clearly shows that he does not consider himself a Christian-Strange that members on this site would refer the him as such-and insist that he is one-while his words prove otherwise.Strange indeed.
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Sent: 3/12/2006 2:27:54 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Astrology
Astrology.
What do you think of such?
DAVEH: I do not subscribe to it, nor do I find it of much interest. However Kevin....I think Blaine tried to show that Christianity has some roots in it. So if one wants to criticize Blaine for his beliefs about astrology, is that same person willing to criticize Christianity for having astrologically related beliefs?
And if you think Blaine is a pagan because of his astrology related beliefs, then do you believe a Christian is also pagan because he believes in some of the pagan rooted elements of the Bible?
Now before you go to great lengths to involve me in an astrology thread, I am not a supporter of the topic. You should engage Blaine if you want to discuss it further, as I neither want to appear to support astrology, nor do I want to speak for Blaine. I'm just pointing out the double standard issue that Christians have to face when denouncing astrology. I'l
l copy this to Blaine in case he wants to respond to this thread....which I will change to reflect the new direction this discussion is taking.
Blaine has posted a number of times refering to Astrology.
What do you think of such?
PA'GAN, n. [L. paganus, a peasant or countryman, from pagus, a village.] A heathen; a Gentile; an idolater; one who worships false gods. This word was originally applied to the inhabitants of the country, who on the first propagation of the christian religion adhered to the worship of false gods, or refused to receive christianity, after it had been received by the inhabitants of the cities. In like manner, heathen signifies an inhabitant of the heath or woods, and caffer, in Arabic, signifies the inhabitant of a hut or cottage, and one that does not receive the religion of Mohammed. Pagan is used to distinguish one from a Christian and a Mohammedan.
PA'GAN, a. Heathen; heathenish; Gentile; noting a person who worships false gods.
1. Pertaining to the worship of false gods.
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK let me chime in I will restate it for Dean
DH's BELIEFS are Pagan!
DAVEH: OK Kevin....specifically in what way do draw that conclusion? What is it that you think I believe that qualifies as a pagan belief? First, you may want to define what you think pagan means so we will have a common starting point.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
"You .. are a pagan" is not the same as "Your beliefs are pagan"
For the sake of Lance (IYO)
OK let me chime in I will restate it for Dean
DH's BELIEFS are Pagan!
So does the BIBLE practice ADHOMS?
AND name names!
Sop let me get this straight Paul should NOT have said:
Acts 13 Elymas the sorcerer ...
PAUL SAYS: And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
SHOULD BE
And said, O full of all subtilty beliefs and all beliefs of mischief, thou child with beliefs of the devil, thou believing against all righteousness, wilt thou not cease believing to pervert the right ways of the Lord? (what VERSION would this be? )
Since Paul was FU LL of the Holy Ghost (IMO VS 9) when he said this does that mean God called Elymas A DEVIL? Is God ADHOM? Did God call him a PERVERT?
You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom
Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your person?
Seriously; can you expound? KD
DH can make the point but let me chime in here, as well. "You .. are a pagan" is not the same as "Your beliefs are pagan>"
Those who have eyes, let them see, Lord.
jd
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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH: ; I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom
Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your person?
Seriously; can you expound?
I called you a Mormon-to which you do not deny-You called me a Christian to wit I did not deny. By doing so you separated the two-and as receiving the first (Mormon) and tagging me with the second(Christian) you have clearly showed yourself to be non Christian
DAVEH: What kind of convoluted logic is that, Judge Dean??? Does any other TTer who understands what Dean said above, agree with his explanation?
You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom, and I will request Judge Moore take the appropriate action if you do not wish to apologize.
he fact that you do not follow the teaching of Jesus Christ
DAVEH: Is that coming from Judge Dean, or Judge Moore?
Get over it the truth is not an Ad. Homein attack
DAVEH: Really?!?!?!?! Did you just make a new TT rule, Judge Moore? Or was that Judge Dean expressing his unfounded wishes?
state a petition to impeach me
DAVEH: Seems to me that you are doing a good job of it on your own.
I am not Judge Dean
DAVEH: Then am I to assume that ever
y time you pass judgment, you are speaking as Judge Moore?
by your standards isn't that Ad. Homein attacking
DAVEH: ??? I thought we were playing the game by your standards, Judge Dean! Hence.....Get over it the truth is not an Ad. Homein attack according to you.
I will have t
o go to the Moderator
DAVEH: I've not had much luck with him, but I suspect he will listen to you.
Are you implyin g Dean called you such NAMES?
DAVEH: I'll let Judge Dean answer that, Kevin..........I say/demand again " Get the "Church of Jesus Christ" name off your temple Pagan!!!
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