I already did this -- in a post to David Miller. Just this afternoon, sometime.
I think David believes you can answer the question -- I do not. Prove me wrong. I would have no problem with that.
jd
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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Why don't you restate my theology JDThen we can go from there.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Undersanding that such language allows for the believer to be alive in Christ while growing out of his/her carnality -- yes., I do not beleive Kevin can say this. Again -- I am simply asking how this verse fits into his theology without throwing it out with the bath water. To date, it does not appear that he can.jd-------------- Original message --------------
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Interesting take here, JD. It appears that you think Kevin would never say
> to the brethren with whom he is in fellowship, "I, brethren, could not speak
> unto you as spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ."
> Is that really what you think?
>
> I'm not reading this in Kevin. I guess I need to go back and review some of
> his posts. Better yet, Kevin, can you inform us about this. Have you ever
> told fellow believers that they were so carnal that you had to go over the
> a, b, c's? I suspect you have found yourself in this position quite often.
>
> David Miller
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Sent: Monday, M arch 13, 2006 5:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?
>
> Two things: First, if you reference David's comments - I happen to agree
> with David.
>
> Secondly -- I think a theology that cancels out such scriptures as I Cor
> 3:1ff is a theology from the Accuser. Such thinking mocks the written word
> and renders the application of scripture to be left to the whim of the
> competing disciples. Perhaps this cannot be avoided - but such thinking
> demands that outcome.
>
> My theology, a biblically based thinking, allows me the freedom to speak
> the very words written in I Cor 3:1 -- those who disagree relegate this
> passage to history and give it no modern day application. Sad.
>
> jd
>
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> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I'd like to hear jd's response to this post. He keeps acting like his one
& gt; > little loophole verse not only contradicts, but overrules, the entire rest
> > of the Bible. iz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller
> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:22 PM
> > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> > > Do you see Jesus & Paul using your
> > > Dictionary definition of Christian?
> >
> > Jesus never used the term Christian and never even heard the term
> > "Christian." Paul was known as a Nazarene (Acts 24:5) and he offers us no
> > definition for the word Chris tian. I see the word as refering to those
> > who
> > profess to follow the teaching of Christ. People can argue about whether
> > others actually do follow Chris t or n ot, but that seems to me to be
> > another
> > debate. When more than 80% of people in the United States identify
> > themselves as being a Christian, it seems to me that it would not be very
> > productive to spend our time trying to argue with them that they are not
> > really Christian at all. Does being a Christian save anybody? No. Faith
> > in the person of Jesus Christ is what saves. I think that gets lost when
> > we
> >
> > focus too much on the sect of Christianity and its rightful definition.
> >
> > Do you think that there is something holy or special about the word
> > "Christian" for the Bible believer?
> >
> > As for Anti-Christs being Christian, well, of course that will be the
> > case.
> > Judas Iscariot was a Nazarene and look how he turned out. Should we expect
> > Christianity to be pure and void of any Judas Iscariots? I don't think so.
&g t; >
> > David Miller
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Deegan
> > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?
> >
> >
> > Do you see Jesus & Paul using your Dictionary definition of Christian?
> >
> > Under this definition then, a decieved one who follows ANTI Christ is
> > truly
> > a Christian!
> >
> > 1) He truly Believes he is worshipping Jesus Christ
> > 2) He truly believes the one he is following was sent by God
> > 3) He follows his teachings and example
> >
> > But in reality he is a hell bound sinner.
> > Help me contextualize, this apparent contradiction
> >
> > David Miller wrote:
> > Judy wrote:
> > > What reason would anyone on TT have
> > ; > to assume that a lifelong Mormon is also
> > > a Chr istian?
> >
> > Following is how my dictionary defines a Christian:
> >
> > Chris.tian
> > noun (plural Chris.tians)
> > 1. believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus
> > Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and who tries to
> > follow his teachings and example
> >
> > If we accept the secular definition of believer as somebody who believes
> > in
> > the teachings of a particular religious faith, then from my perspective ,
> > Mormonism falls into this category of Christian. This does not mean that
> > they have the right belief system, or that any of them will be saved. It
> > simply places them in the Christian category, as a religious sect that is
> > centered on the idea that Jesus Christ is the Savior sent by God to save
> > humani ty. There are false sects within Christianity, and I think the
> > Mormon
> > sects are among them.
> >
> > David Miller.
>
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