Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

[Kevin Deegan]

And many around here don't know their final destination either!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Have we all forgotten that the DM's comments had to do with how to proceed on TT  --  and had nothing to do with is or who is not really a Christian..  This should not take any brain power at all  --  I understood David to be talking about a show of respect.   As he has said  --   "Christian" is not a word that presents others with a picture of where any of us spend eternity.  There is no biblical argument for the use of this word.  and Deegan does not know of the destiny of a single specific person. 

 

jd

 

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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You seem more interested in the philosophy of just what is and what is not a christian.
Is the dictionary definition correct or not.

What is much more important is the fact that DH is headed for eternal torment.

Man overboard!
Do you want to discuss wether we throw the blue/white life preserver to him or the red/white?

David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The thing is, some Baptists, some Methodists, some ... name your favorite  sect of Christianity, also are not what you are. Some of them worship idols too. Do you agree?

David Miller

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From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

I do not put any special emphasis on using the term christian.
Whatever you may say I am it is definitely NOT what DH is.
Call it what you want.
FAITH vs IDOL worship?
Does that work?

David Miller wrote:
Kevin wrote:
> Do you see Jesus & Paul using your
> Dictionary definition of Christian?

Jesus never used the term Christian and never even heard the term
"Christian." Paul was known as a Nazarene (Acts 24:5) and he offers us no
definition for the word Christian. I see th e word as refering to those who
profess to follow the teaching of Christ. People can argue about whether
others actually do follow Christ or not, but that seems to me to be another
debate. When more than 80% of people in the United States identify
themselves as being a Christian, it seems to me that it would not be very
productive to spend our time trying to argue with them that they are not
really Christian at all. Does being a Christian save anybody? No. Faith
in the person of Jesus Christ is what saves. I think that gets lost when we
focus too much on the sect of Christianity and its rightful definition.

Do you think that there is something holy or special about the word
"Christian" for the Bible believer?

As for Anti-Christs being Christian, well, of course that will be the case.
Judas Iscariot was a Nazarene and look how he turned out. Should we expect
Christianity to be pure and void of any Judas Iscariots? I don't think so.

David Miller


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From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?


Do you see Jesus & Paul using your Dictionary definition of Christian?

Under this definition then, a decieved one who follows ANTI Christ is truly
a Christian!

1) He truly Believes he is worshipping Jesus Christ
2) He truly believes the one he is following was sent by God
3) He follows his teachings and example

But in reality he is a hell bound sinner.
Help me contextualize, this apparent contradiction

David Miller wrote:
Judy wrote:
> What reason would anyone on TT have
> to assume that a lifelong Mormon is also
> a Christian?

Following is how my dictionary defines a Christian:

Chris·tian
noun (plural Chris·tians)
1. believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus
Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and who tries to
follow his teachings an d example

If we accept the secular definition of believer as somebody who believes in
the teachings of a particular religious faith, then from my perspective ,
Mormonism falls into this category of Christian. This does not mean that
they have the right belief system, or that any of them will be saved. It
simply places them in the Christian category, as a religious sect that is
centered on the idea that Jesus Christ is the Savior sent by God to save
humanity. There are false sects within Christianity, and I think the Mormon
sects are among them.

David Miller.

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