Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

[Kevin Deegan]

Anyone can play I'm in the IN crowd.

Why else would secret societies thrive?

Like Masons and Mormons.

 

Pardon me for giving him the benefit of the doubt if that is the reality.

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kevin:I'd like to believe that David is not playing with you (the cat and mouse thingy) but, at times it'd appear so.You rarely 'see/hear' the point(s) of his posts. IMO he knows that you won't. IMO this is similar to his engagement with Dean. He seems capable of being 'humbly patronising'.IMO he esteems himself more highly than he ought while believing himself more humble than he is.  

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From: Kevin Deegan

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March 14, 2006 07:34

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

Can you explain you deep concern with the ORTHODOX in contrast to what would seem to be your support of the UNORTHODOX?

 

Are you a False Prophet?

A Baalim?

Do you halt between two opinions?

Or just brought in unawares?

 

Are you so concerned with "Unity" that you would join yourself to Error?

David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Many Christian sects, such as Baptists, do have false prophets. I'm talking
about the pastor who misinterprets the Word of God. I was given the left
foot of fellowship from a Baptist pastor once over the fact that I speak in
tongues. Nevertheless, you make a good point about how Mormonism has
something else that many other Christian sects don't have.

What about Roman Catholics? They recognize several other books of
Scripture, and they have a much more active prophet than the Mormons, called
the pope. Do you think this puts them in a perilous position?

Also, another question for you: Despite the false prophet and false
Scripture, is it possible from your perspective for any of the Mormons to be
saved? In other words, despite these issues, is a Mormon able to have faith
in Jesus Christ? There is nothing in these Scriptures that forbid them from
applying faith in Christ. It is a little different than the Qur'an, isn't
it?

David Miller.

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From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?


If I may say so, no they do not have a false prophet and a false bible, as
do mormons. They are not an idolatrous religion. What individual members do
is an entirely different subject. iz

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:29 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

The thing is, some Baptists, some Methodists, some ... name your favorite
sect of Christianity, also are not what you are. Some of them worship idols

too. Do you agree?

David Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

I do not put any special emphasis on using the term christian.
Whatever you may say I am it is definitely NOT what DH is.
Call it what you want.
FAITH vs IDOL worship?
Does that work?

David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
Kevin wrote:
> Do you see Jesus & Paul using your
> Dictionary definition of Christian?

Jesus never used the term Christian and never even heard the term
"Christian." Paul was known as a Nazarene (Acts 24:5) and he offers us no
definition for the word Christian. I see the word as refering to those who
profess to follow the teaching of Christ. People can argue about whether
others actually do follow Christ or not, but that seems to me to be another
debate. When more than 80% of people in the United States identify
themselves as being a Christian, it seems to me that it would not be very
productive to spend our time trying to argue with them that they are not
really Christian at all. Does being a Christian save anybody? No. Faith
in the person of Jesus Christ is what saves. I think that gets lost when we
focus too much on the sect of Christianity and its rightful definition.

Do you think that there is something holy or special about the word
"Christian" for the Bible believer?

As for Anti-Christs being Christian, well, of course that will be the case.
Judas Iscariot was a Nazarene and look how he turned out. Should we expect
Christianity to be pure and void of any Judas Iscariots? I don't think so.

David Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?


Do you see Jesus & Paul using your Dictionary definition of Christian?

Under this definition then, a decieved one who follows ANTI Christ is truly
a Christian!

1) He truly Believes he is worshipping Jesus Christ
2) He truly believes the one he is following was sent by God
3) He follows his teachings and example

But in reality he is a hell bound sinner.
Help me contextualize, this apparent contradiction

David Miller wrote:
Judy wrote:
> What reason would anyone on TT have
> to assume that a lifelong Mormon is also
> a Christian?

Following is how my dictionary defines a Christian:

Chris.tian
noun (plural Chris.tians)
1. believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus
Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and who tries to
follow his teachings and example

If we accept the secular definition of believer as somebody who believes in
the teachings of a particular religious faith, then from my perspective ,
Mormonism falls into this category of Christian. This does not mean that
they have the right belief system, or that any of them will be saved. It
simply places them in the Christian category, as a religious sect that is
centered on the idea that Jesus Christ is the Savior sent by God to save
humanity. There are false sects within Christianity, and I think the Mormon
sects are among them.

David Miller.

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