Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

[knpraise]

As far as I know, Torrance believed that salvation was offered to all  --  not a Calvinist opinion, my dear.   And you are much more the Calvinist that he.

 

His comments below gives us a consistent explanation of the biblical notion that man is justified apart from obedience to the law.  It beats a redactive explanation of same  !! that's for sure. 

 

jd

 

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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

He also says this:

But the Scots Confession laid the axe to the root of any such movement when it insisted that we have to spoil ourselves even of our own regeneration and sanctification as well as justification. What is "axed" so radically was the notion of "co-redemption" which in our day has again become so rampant, not only in the Roman Church, but in Liberal and Evangelical Protestantism, e.g., the emphasis upon existential decision as the means whereby we "make real" for ourselves the kerygma [proclamation] of the New Testament, which means that in the last resort our salvation depends upon our own personal or existential decision. That is the exact antithesis of the Reformed doctrine of election, which rests salvation upon the prior and objective decision of God in Christ. It is Justification by Grace alone that guards the Gospel from corruption by "Evangel icals," "Liberals," and Romans alike.

So Torrance is also a Calvinist at heart who is resting in Calvin's "doctrine of election" in spite of all the big theological words and high talk...

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:43:32 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In the recent article posted by Lance from Torrance, the theologican says this:

"Nowhere is this more apparent than in the case of the popular minister where everything centers on him, and the whole life of the congregation is built round him.  What is that but Protestant sacerdotalism, sacerdotalism which involves the displacement of the Humanity of Christ by the humanity of the minister, and the obscuring of the Person of Christ by the personality of the minister?"

amen.   We have here a well worded warning to the mega church industry that  the Christ,  His very person, just might be lost to a pattern of worship that denies opportunities for authenticity  and spontaneous participation by the attendee.  It can be argued that such 'worship services"  fly in the face of such passages as Eph 5:18,19.   There is a bonding and a closeness that takes place in a small group that is not possible in the mega assemblies. 

 

jd