Misinformation here, Lance. TruthTalk did not fire anybody. The
moderator resigned. I still think he would have done a fine job if he had
allowed some dialogue about what he was doing.
I do agree, however, that Christians (and you know how I use
this term) cannot be trusted anymore than anyone else.
The liberty of the teacher should be allowed, whether we trust the teacher
or not. Our ability to communicate with the teacher should be enough to
help curb any undesirable behavior. I favor communication and
persuasion over censorship. How about you?
David Miller
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:49
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on
Creationism
Censorship you say, David? TT just fired a
censor? Christians can be no more trusted than anyone else. I'd not expect you
to agree on this though in granting 'Senator' CDM a stint you illustrated my
point.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 23, 2006 16:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on
Creationism
Let the teacher decide what is relevant. They don't teach all the
competing ideas of evolution either, so what is the problem? The
problem of censorship should concern you because the truth is not afraid of
evidence. You should be concerned whenever one side uses legal
maneuvers and rhetoric to prevent the other side from being heard.
David Miller
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:50
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on
Creationism
And who is going to present these competing versions of
creation -- the average Joe school teacher
?? Do you have any idea what an antagonist educator would do
with such information? Actually, this "creationism in
the school" thingy is really starting to sound like a bad idea !!
jd
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Original message -------------- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You remind me, Lance, of another show... Back to the Future, where
Biff is hitting Marty McFly on the head, "Hello, Hello, Anybody
Home? Think, McFly, Think."
To further elucidate my point: having numerous
creationist models of origins is not a reason to exclude them from our
educational system. There are numerous models of evolution as
well. The premise by which you think you can rest your case is
rather elusive.
David Miller
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006
1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on
Creationism
Homer Simpson, while attempting to steal
a candy bar from a vending machine, got his arm stuck. He dragged that
one over to another for a second attempt thus getting both arms
securely locked in. Somehow, with his nose, he managed to dial 911 for
assistance. The operator asked Homer 'Are each of your hands wrapped
around candy bars?' Homer replied, 'your point being?'
David: You sound a little like Homer in
your reply.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 23, 2006
10:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on
Creationism
Lance
wrote:
> There are as many
'species' of creationists as fish.
The same can be said for evolutionists. So what is your
point?
David Miller
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 23,
2006 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on
Creationism
There are as many 'species' of
creationists as fish. Put a million of 'em at the keyboards of
computers and they'd come up with.....well...what they've already
come up with. I rest my case your honor.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 23, 2006
06:44
Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Williams on Creationism
Why advocate teaching what you don't
know JD? As has already been noted "Only when we
prove
evolution do we need to concern
ourselves with "harmonizing" evolutionism with theism.
Evidence that
this level of proof has not been
achieved includes the long list of scientists and others who
have abandoned
Darwinism because they became convinced
that the scientific evidence DOES NOT support it. So
why
would you want to warp young minds with
useless information that is not proven? judyt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the
school systems and you are talking about religious
people!!! Amazing
Maybe we should install a different creationist version
for every major school system
.................... I am sure we can find
enough fundy ideas to go around. That way , you would
have to worry about consensus and no one will have the
slightest idea what to believe. but you and Kev will
be happy. CONSENSUS BE DAMNED. KNOW THE
TRUTH AND IT SHALL MAKE YOU FREE !! jd
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I surmised as much JD; my point
being that religious ppl have many
and varied points of view about
anything and everything and this is no
measure by which to gauge what is
needful or true.
Do you even know what this thread is about,
Judy?
WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE
CIRRICULUM -- HUH ???
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So?
There isn't a single view of
the whole church that is agreed upon
by the whole church
either. What does that prove?
judyt
Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I
do. I know this --
there isn't a single view of creationism that
is agreed upon by the whole church.
jd
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Original message -------------- From: "David
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John wrote:
> The world in which we live would reject
> any mention of God in the evolutionary
process,
> IMO. But creationism
in the schools? Could
> that not be considered the beginnings of
a fanatical
> fundamentalist take-over of the culture?
ROTFLOL. I sure hope you were
being facetious on purpose.
John wrote:
> But to allow a mere statement that
suggests God
> is somehow in control as the
Creator(?) If this
> could be presented into the secular
system of
> education without it being coopted by
the fundies
> -- go for it. But I
doubt that it can. What a shame
> that radical fundamentalism within
Christiandom forces
> the Body to dismiss a perfectly
wonderful opportunity
> to introduce the Creator to
others.
In case you did not notice, the
fundamentalists are not causing the
acknowledgement of our Creator to be forbidden
in schools. It is the liberal loonies
like this Archbishop of Canterbury who are
doing this.
David Miller
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