[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How about we start a list of 'Resouces' in the maven docs including links to all these presentations?

Anyone else think it's a good idea?

+1.

It definitely is a good idea !
We need a place to show them, anyway ...

Ste'phane

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Rademacher Tobias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/11/2002 05:36:55 PM:


Hi Justen,


-----Original Message-----
From: Justen Stepka [mailto:jstepka@;webprogrammers.net]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/ and FAQ


What is Maven?

Maven is a project comprehension tool that offers Continuous
Integration.

Please see also:
http://www.apache.org/~jstrachan/MavenJelly/MavenJelly.html
http://www.javausergroup.at/events/e19092002.htm.
http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html


Please see the Goals and Features documents.

I must say that I am more than confused as to what Maven really does after
reading the Goals and features...

Why do I want to use Maven (problem domain)?

Maven is aimed to avoid you from stress writing batch scripts or shell
script or make files to build
your java projects. Have you ever tried to build a JAR with one of the
common IDE's? Normally such IDE features
are not very reliable and it often ends up in the batch file workaround.
Jakarata Ant builds your projects but Ant is not desinged to be
reusable. So

you usally spent a lot of time hacking
ant scripts.
Maven is desinged for resuability by offering plugins and a extendable
scripting language much more powerfull than ant
tasks. For simple project's you have to write a short project xml
descriptor

and start maven. Maven has standard goals with helps team members to
easily

adopt it. You can compile, test your code and build a project
documenation

including helpfull reports(metrics, test reports, checkstyle report
etc...)

in one tool. Try that with one of the common IDE's. BTW most of such
IDE's

are ressource eaters. For Maven you just needs a JVM and internet
access.

Finally Maven keeps out your libaries form your source code archive.


How is Maven going to save me
time? What tools does Maven integrate with?

See the plugin documenation for currently supported stuff. I guess a lot
will contribute soon. You can write a own plugin if you need a special
tool

support eg. code obfuscation.


Without answering these basic questions I have passed up downloading Maven
and will stick with my current project management process :(....

What do you use?


Can anyone provide a clear understand for the average Joe who is browsing
the ever growing number of Jakarta projects?!

:-) Hope I helped you a little.

Bye
Toby

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