Nope!

And actually, if you want to look at the fulcrum security stuff, it is all
based around a "model" and a implementation..

The model is how you hook up things like users, groups, roles, permissions,
etc..  what ever entities you have.  the implementation supports it..

Right now we have complete implementations for hibernate and memory.  It
would be very easy to make a 'text' or 'file' implementation to support the
existing models.

Check out the code from cvs, and copy the /memory project to /file and
you're off to the races..

And no DB dependencies in Turbine!

Eric


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:15 PM
> To: Turbine Users List
> Subject: Re: Turbine and database use
>
>
> Thanks Eric,  I'll take a look at that.
>
> Other than the user/security stuff though, does Turbine have
> any other
> database needs itself?  In otherwords, if I used fulcrum and
> plugged in a
> security system based on text files (just as an example),
> would I need a
> database connected at all for Turbine to work?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gerry
>
> Eric Pugh wrote:
> > Gerry,
> >
> > Not sure if you have looked at it, but look at the Fulcrum
> Security code.
> > This is a pluggable security framework that makes it easy
> to roll your own
> > implementation.
> >
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/fulcrum-security/ind
> ex.html will
> > get you to the online info, however, what is in CVS has been highly
> > improved.  Just working on finishing updating the docs.
> >
> > If you look at the unit tests, you can see how you can use Turbine's
> > security, but delegate through an adapter to this pluggable
> security engine.
> >
> > Eric Pugh
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:27 PM
> >>To: Turbine Users List
> >>Subject: Turbine and database use
> >>
> >>
> >>Howdy,
> >>
> >>I'm still trying to figure out how to best integrate our
> >>project into Turbine
> >>and I keep getting stuck on the Torque part.  I was hoping
> >>someone could
> >>clarify a few things for me.
> >>
> >>1) Besides user login (and related groups/roles/permissions),
> >>does Turbine
> >>itself need access to a database to work?  If so, what sort
> >>of things does it
> >>need to store/access?
> >>
> >>2) If the answer to #1 is no, (turbine w/o security/user
> >>stuff doesn't use the
> >>database), is there any specific reason why you could not
> >>create an entirely
> >>seperate user authentication code (entirely outside the
> >>turbine framework -
> >>turbine would not even be aware of it).
> >>
> >>I'm not saying that we want to roll our own security/user
> >>stuff, but I'm
> >>trying to figure out how much of those function *have* to be
> >>done wtih
> >>cooperation of Turbine in order to make things work vs ones
> >>that can be, but
> >>do not have to be, cooperating with Turbine.
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Gerry
> >>
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