Eric, I personally think what you are doing is great and will attract a lot of users that do not want to be only tied to torque.
What I think would be just perfect, is that instead of only a "how to" you could provide a working skeleton application as an example (Hibernate e.g), so we could just dump it into the container and then start the copy&paste part! regards Akmal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Pugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Turbine Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: RE: Turbine and database use > Nope! > > And actually, if you want to look at the fulcrum security stuff, it is all > based around a "model" and a implementation.. > > The model is how you hook up things like users, groups, roles, permissions, > etc.. what ever entities you have. the implementation supports it.. > > Right now we have complete implementations for hibernate and memory. It > would be very easy to make a 'text' or 'file' implementation to support the > existing models. > > Check out the code from cvs, and copy the /memory project to /file and > you're off to the races.. > > And no DB dependencies in Turbine! > > Eric > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:15 PM > > To: Turbine Users List > > Subject: Re: Turbine and database use > > > > > > Thanks Eric, I'll take a look at that. > > > > Other than the user/security stuff though, does Turbine have > > any other > > database needs itself? In otherwords, if I used fulcrum and > > plugged in a > > security system based on text files (just as an example), > > would I need a > > database connected at all for Turbine to work? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Gerry > > > > Eric Pugh wrote: > > > Gerry, > > > > > > Not sure if you have looked at it, but look at the Fulcrum > > Security code. > > > This is a pluggable security framework that makes it easy > > to roll your own > > > implementation. > > > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/fulcrum/fulcrum-security/ind > > ex.html will > > > get you to the online info, however, what is in CVS has been highly > > > improved. Just working on finishing updating the docs. > > > > > > If you look at the unit tests, you can see how you can use Turbine's > > > security, but delegate through an adapter to this pluggable > > security engine. > > > > > > Eric Pugh > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:27 PM > > >>To: Turbine Users List > > >>Subject: Turbine and database use > > >> > > >> > > >>Howdy, > > >> > > >>I'm still trying to figure out how to best integrate our > > >>project into Turbine > > >>and I keep getting stuck on the Torque part. I was hoping > > >>someone could > > >>clarify a few things for me. > > >> > > >>1) Besides user login (and related groups/roles/permissions), > > >>does Turbine > > >>itself need access to a database to work? If so, what sort > > >>of things does it > > >>need to store/access? > > >> > > >>2) If the answer to #1 is no, (turbine w/o security/user > > >>stuff doesn't use the > > >>database), is there any specific reason why you could not > > >>create an entirely > > >>seperate user authentication code (entirely outside the > > >>turbine framework - > > >>turbine would not even be aware of it). > > >> > > >>I'm not saying that we want to roll our own security/user > > >>stuff, but I'm > > >>trying to figure out how much of those function *have* to be > > >>done wtih > > >>cooperation of Turbine in order to make things work vs ones > > >>that can be, but > > >>do not have to be, cooperating with Turbine. > > >> > > >>Thanks! > > >> > > >>Gerry > > >> > > >>-- > > >>Gerry Duprey > > >>________________________________________ > > >>SchoolsOPEN, LLC > > >>123 North Ashley, Suite 120 > > >>Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > > >>Phone (877) 483-1944 Ext. 401 > > >>Fax (734) 661-0819 > > >> > > >>Visit us Online at www.Schools-OPEN.com > > >> > > >> > > >>------------------------------------------------------------ > > --------- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > Gerry Duprey > > ________________________________________ > > SchoolsOPEN, LLC > > 123 North Ashley, Suite 120 > > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > > Phone (877) 483-1944 Ext. 401 > > Fax (734) 661-0819 > > > > Visit us Online at www.Schools-OPEN.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
