Peter,

Could you send me the link you clicked?  Here is the proper link:
(http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2.4/index.html), I'll fix the
broken one today.

As far as Turbine 3 goes, the best parts of Turbine 3 (namely decoupled
services in terms of Avalon components, and the pipeline) have been ported
into Turbine 2.4. So, Turbine 3 can be more thought of as an experiment,
with the good parts rejoing Turbine 2.x.   Other then that, 2.4 is an
evolutionary upgrade of the work started in 2.3.

Eric



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:15 AM
> To: Turbine Users List
> Subject: Turbine vs. Other Frameworks
>
>
> Hello. Please excuse me for asking a question that has been asked
> a thousand
> times before, but I have been unable to find a solid, coherent answer.
>
> I would really like to know why Turbine is better or at least how it is
> materially different than WebWorks2, Tapestry, Spring, JPublish
> or any other
> mature application framework. I mean, anyone reading this message
> obviously
> uses Turbine and I would love to hear your thoughts -- what do
> you like and
> what do you dislike? Why should I use Turbine instead of WebWorks2 or
> Tapestry? Where there any ways in which Turbine inhibited the
> development of
> your projects?
>
> Additionally, I am curious as to the current state and future direction of
> Turbine. For example, I have noticed that clicking on the Turbine 2.4 link
> from the Turbine home page produces a 404
> (http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine-2.4/index.html). Yet I have read that a
> whole series of improvements, such as better Avalon component
> integration or
> a fully removed Torque, will be available only in Turbine 2.4. Is this
> project still moving forward? Is it a different codebase than 2.3 as I
> understand Turbine 3 was supposed to be, or is it simply an updated 2.3?
>
>
>
> Thanks Very Much,
>
> Peter T. Brown
>
>
>
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