Jorge Godoy wrote:
> "JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Maybe it would be worth starting a TG-Newbie forum, where beginner (and
>> more advanced) users can help eachother, leaving more time to TG core
>> developers to get on with more important work than to reply to basic
>> questions....
>> ...or, did I miss something, is there already such a forum?
> 
> This is it.  Creating a forum for newbies makes little sense since there would
> be lots of crossposts with "experts" forum since the newbies would have
> troubles solving problems on their own :-)
> 
> Sometimes we bark, but we don't bite (not while you're looking, at least). 
> 
> The thing is that in every volunteers forum you have to wait for someone to be
> interested in your message.  If no one's interested then it is very unlikely
> that you'll receive an answer...  Writing clear messages specifying what
> you've done helps a lot (but then you have the drawback on the size of the
> message and people getting bored at it and not answering you...). 
> 
> You can be sure that people who are developing TG are working when they can
> and it isn't the noise here that is preventing us from doing more :-)  I wish
> I could dedicate more time to TG, for example, but I also have to put food on
> the table... 
> 
> So, research, insist and post here.  I believe this is the best mailing list
> where you'll get help.  And if you show you did your work before -- tests,
> research, etc. -- then it is even better (as a developer you know we like
> people who try to solve the problem first ;-)). 
> 
> 
I'd agree with Jorge here, and for another reason as well as his very 
good ones. It's important that the developer community realises the 
problems that the current state of the system creates for relatively 
inexperienced users.

TurboGears is potentially a great system, but we just have to keep those 
developers focused on the problems of real users and stop them adding 
functionality before we have documentation for the stuff that already 
exists :-)

[Seriously, I am a pretty experienced developer and I found it difficult 
to get into the project. That's why I've decided that my contributions 
will initially be in the documentation area].

regards
  Steve
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