Hi,

Information presented on the website needs to be progressive. This means
that we  expose critical/interesting information as top level information
and allow the reader to learn more as they advance.

I agree that it is interesting for users and developers to know about  SCA's
flexibility to extend beyond Java and C++ at the first glance. This is
something we'd want to promote as a top level piece of information on the
website.

On the other hand,  information about bindings seem to be implementation
details that are not critical as a top level information. User will reach to
this information when he/she drills down for more information.

Haleh

On 11/3/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Please find my comments inline.  Thanks

- Venkat

On 11/3/06, Andrew Borley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For SCA, I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the things we
> support in our releases - Tuscany SCA does more than just C++ or Java,
> and the fact that we implement in these 2 languages doesn't really
> need to be quite so highlighted on the site (IMO).


If we have more than just Java and C++ lets go and mention that, but under
SCA - is all that I am asking.  So that a user knows where all of this
goes
into or what the common thread is to all of this.  Remember we also have
DAS
and SDO.

What would be cool
> would be a listing of all the stuff we support, and then link to some
> info about where and how we provide that support. E.g:
>
> Component language bindings:
> Java
> C++
> Javascript
> Python
> Ruby
> PHP (with a link to the SCA for PHP project for now)
> etc..
>
> Containers:
> Tomcat
> HTTPD
> etc..
>
> Bindings:
> Axis2 Web Services
> etc..
>
> What do people think?


This will certainly interest the users.. but what's in your mind about
presenting this.. are you suggesting that we simply list all of this on
the
Navigation Pane on the left?

Andy
>
> On 11/3/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Thanks Everbody for looking into this and providing your comments.
> >
> > Rick, I am ok with the Tabs as long as we provide enhanced user
> experience
> > thro them.  We must either have the tabs or the pane on the left for
the
> > first level navigation.  i.e. For every tab selected the navigation
pane
> on
> > the left has a diff set of relevant options.  So if SCA tab is seleced
> then
> > on the left pane we see only stuff releated to SCA.  I would feel this
> to be
> > consistent and less confusing.
> >
> > Lee and Raymond, it is no surprise that the links are not working
:).  I
> had
> > submitted ahead that this is just to get a top level feel of the
> navigation
> > I am proposing and the links may either not work or work wrongly.
> >
> > Meanwhile I am proceeding with the changes and will get up more
updates
> on
> > that JIRA before this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > - Venkat
> >
> > On 11/3/06, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I uploaded Venkat's patch to
> > > http://people.apache.org/~rfeng/tuscany/site-publish/index.html for
> better
> > > viewing. I found quite a few links bring me to the wrong page.
> > >
> > > I would suggest that we keep the GUI template (panes and tabs) as is
> and
> > > focus on adding more contents.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Raymond
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Venkata Krishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Tuscany Website Updates
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sure yes Ant.  For the Documentation, as mentioned earlier, I plan
> to
> > > have
> > > > separate pages for SCA Docs, SDO Docs. and DAS Docs.
> > > >
> > > > Each of these pages will have a list of topics that will further
> link to
> > > > separate pages.  Here is something that I can imagine for now for
> this.
> > > >
> > > > 1) SCA Java Overview
> > > >    <will will have something in general about how we have
> partitioned as
> > > > APIs SPI Core etc.>
> > > >
> > > > 2) SCA Java - Extensions
> > > >    <About extensions... Implementation Types, Bindings and the
> general
> > > > prog. model around loaders, buliders, invokers>
> > > >    <How to write your own impl. type and binding extensions>
> > > >    <Tuscany Implementatin Extensions>
> > > >          <JavaScript>
> > > >          <Groovy>
> > > >          <Ruby>
> > > >
> > > > 3) SCA Java - DataBinding Facility
> > > >    <About DataBinding and its advantage>
> > > >    <How to write your own data bindings>
> > > >
> > > > 4) Java SCA Runtimes and Application Deployment
> > > >      <Standalone>
> > > >      <WebApp>
> > > >
> > > > 5) Java SCA Samples
> > > >      <Overview of samples available in SCA Java>
> > > >      <How to write your own SCA Application>
> > > >
> > > > So I guess, what you wish to do might go into one of the lind uder
> Topic
> > > > 2.
> > > >
> > > > Please feel free to correct this or fill in if I have grossly
missed
> out
> > > > on
> > > > somethings.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > - Venkat
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/2/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11/2/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 11/2/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I am putting up some proposals for updates to our website and
> > > request
> > > >> > > feedback on this or suggestions for the better.   Right away
> some
> > > top
> > > >> > > level
> > > >> > > ones are:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > - Do away with the tabs.  This is because I don't see
> correlation
> > > >> > > between
> > > >> > > the Tab options and the options on the navigation pane in the
> left.
> > > >> i.e
> > > >> > > .  if
> > > >> > > the tabs are first level navigation then the pane on the left
> must
> > > be
> > > >> > > sub-options within a selected tab - I don't see such a
> > > >> correlation.  So
> > > >> > > let's avoid confusion to the website visitor
> > > >> > > - There is lots of green :) and am having some difficulties
to
> get
> > > >> > > additional colors that gel with this.  Either somebody with
> better
> > > >> > > colour
> > > >> > > sense helps or we moderate the green a bit.
> > > >> > > - The images that are used for the Navigation Optoins on the
> left
> > > >> > > pane
> > > >> > > and
> > > >> > > for the titles of various boxes may need to be sharpened a
bit
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > All this besides the fact the the various navigations paths
> need to
> > > >> > > be
> > > >> > > reviewed and set right.  I shall get to these as well.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Meanwhile I have created a JIRA
> > > >> > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-703 where I have
> > > >> attempted
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > provide a view of what's in my mind for the Navigation Pane
on
> the
> > > >> left
> > > >> > > together with some changes for the Downloads page.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > You simply have to extract the zip that is attached in that
> JIRA
> > > and
> > > >> > > take a
> > > >> > > look at /site-publish/downloads.html.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Also, I have a diagram posted for the Java_SCA Overview in
the
> same
> > > >> > > JIRA,
> > > >> > > please see if you can say somethings about that as well.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > - Venkat
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Its really good you're looking at the website Venkat, it has
> become a
> > > >> bit
> > > >> > neglected. What you've suggested above all sounds good to me,
I'd
> > > >> suggest
> > > >> > just going ahead and making changes as you think appropriate as
> that
> > > >> will be
> > > >> > much easier for you. Maybe for big ones mention on the dev list
> first
> > > >> but
> > > >> > otherwise just dive in and send emails after the fact so others
> can
> > > >> review -
> > > >> > just as with the code CTR not RTC :)
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> I meant to add, I'd like to help, specifically with adding pages
> with
> > > doc
> > > >> about the various extensions, maybe along the lines of that
example
> i
> > > >> posted
> > > >> earlier [1]. Could you find a space for me on the website for me
to
> do
> > > >> that?
> > > >>
> > > >>    ...ant
> > > >>
> > > >> [1]
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
>
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL 
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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