Meeraj,

well go over the archives and count how many times you, jim and jeremy
have -1'ed something. The correct vote for "I am happy to go with the
majority view, if that is what the community wants." is -0 *NOT* -1.
When you do a -1 you are supposed to work hard to come up with a
refined proposal that takes in your viewpoint or help come up with a
proposal that evertone can rally around. I see no effort in consensus
building in any of the threads i reviewed after a -1. This is an open
source project, you can have the best goddamn architecture in the
whole wide world. If there is no community to back the work. It will
get thrown out of the incubator. Sorry, that's the way Apache works.
Incubator is not only for legal purposes but also to help build
communities. This is not the way an open source project should work.
Forget about incubator projects, we have closed Top level project
(example Avalon) too because everyone was at cross purposes and no one
was cooperating with any one else. Yes, a few of the people who
started the fracas did say exactly what you said.."I disagree
fundamnetally from a technical perspective". See this email and check
if it is the same situation you all are in.

Finally did the three of you VOTE in the "Be Nice" thread? That just
tells me a lot of things.

thanks,
dims

[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/avalon-dev/200211.mbox/[EMAIL 
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On 3/28/07, Meeraj Kunnumpurath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dims,

I don't think there is a stream of -1s. This is an issue on which, 
unfortunately, I disagree fundamnetally from a technical perspective, with the 
percieved majority view. It will be hypocritical of me to +1, if I don't agree 
with it.

However, I am happy to go with the majority view, if that is what the community 
wants.

Ta
Meeraj

________________________________

From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 3/28/2007 11:24 PM
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable 
building all modules together



Jim, Meeraj,

If the stream of -1's contnue, am afraid there isn't going to be a
single release at all.

thx,
dims

On 3/28/07, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mar 28, 2007, at 12:51 AM, ant elder wrote:
>
> > Here's the vote on this I said [1] I'd start to get closure on this
> > issue.
> >
> > The proposal is to have top-level pom for the Java SCA project that
> > enables
> > building all the modules together - kernel, services, runtimes,
> > extensions
> > etc, and for that to work all those modules need to use the same
> > version
> > name.
> >
> > Here's my +1.
> >
> >   ...ant
> >
> > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/
> > msg16024.html
>
>
>
> There has been no proposal for how to resolve the issue about
> building extensions using multiple versions of kernel and how modules
> on different release schedules requiring different levels of kernel
> or plugins will be handled.
>
> Until we can come up with a solution for these issues, I feel I have
> to vote against the proposal.
>
> -1
>
> Jim
>
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