Ok, I've added a new download page for the SCA Java 0.90 release which
hopefully isn't to far away from whats been talked about:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Java+0.90-incubating

Its not linked to from anywhere yet as I'm not sure after all this
discussion where to put it. The main things I think would be good are to not
have to click through many links to get to the actual download link for a
latest release and for it to be quite obvious what the current latest
release is of something and its not obscured that with lots of old download
links.

I wondered if the download page pointed to from the "General" menu box could
be  expanded to have links to each of the current download pages (the above
SCA+Java+0.90-incubating etc) and at the bottom another link to a page with
all the old downloads?

  ...ant

On 5/30/07, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

What we are attempting to do now it really far better than cluttering all
the downloads together on one page.  Here is what I think about this

- for every Release (SCA / SDO / DAS) have a separate page whose first
section talks about what comprises of that release (including spec levels
etc.) and then have a next section that is titled 'Downloads'.
- then have a single page titled 'Releases' where we list all the releases
and each entry is a link to the separate Release page.  Here again we
could
choose to have SCA Releases, SDO Releases, DAS Releases on diff. pages or
just have all in one under diff sections.
- Finally from the global home page and the home page of the subprojects
have a menu item 'Releases' that will point to the 'Releases' page.

This way, with every release we simply have to go an make the specific
release page and add a link to the Releases page.   I had created a
Release
page for the recent SDO Release without the Downloads section
though.  Here
it is just for people to get an idea of what I mean

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SDO+Java+1.0-incubating-beta1

When creating these Release pages my request is that we maintain the page
hierarchies. For example the release page for the SCA 0.90 release should
be
added under Home->SCA Overview->SCA Java->Releases->SCA 0.90 Release.

By the way there is a SCA Java and a SCA Java Subproject page - can we
merge
these two into one.

Thanks

- Venkat

On 5/30/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am including tuscany-users to get their opinion if interested.
>
> Here are my thoughts influenced by your comments :)
> - Separate the download information for latest release from the old
> releases.
> - Having the text of the change file/read me  on the front page of the
> download page is good. This makes it easier to identify what is in the
new
> release. So, added a section called 'what's new in this release'.
> - It is good to have download  information for at least the back 2
> releases.
>
> - It is useful to know what level of spec is supported by each release.
> For
> example, for SCA there are several specs. A release can be at Assembly
> 1.0level and an older version of Client spec.
> - Having a page that  takes user to all the downloads[2] is good.
> - Having a download page per subproject is good since  the audience for
> each
> download page may be different. For example, someone using SDO may not
> necessarily want to download SCA.
>
> Here is an attempt for a sample download page which incorporates your
> feedback [1]
> User will reach[1] from [2]  (not linked yet)
>
> [1]
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Java+SCA+Download+Page
> [2] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Tuscany+Downloads
>
> Does it look OK?
>
>
> On 5/29/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The idea of a single download page sounds good, but if we are thinking
> > about tracking page visitors to correlate to the number of downloads,
> > we won't be able to identify if the person is visiting the page to
> > download SCA, SDO or DAS.
> >
> > On 5/29/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I agree it would be good to not duplicate things for each
downloadable
> > > artifact associated with a release. Not sure it really needs the day
> of
> > the
> > > release or the assembly spec info either.
> > >
> > > And +1 to having old release downloads on a separate page. I'm not
> sure
> > if
> > > this is the proposal but could there be a single download page that
> has
> > the
> > > current latest release of each of SCA, SDO and DAS?
> > >
> > >    ...ant
> > >
> > > On 5/29/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is that you moved the release name and date from
> the
> > > > "download section"  to the "download table". If they are always
same
> > > > for a group of downloads, won't it take space from the page by
> > > > repeating it on each table row ?
> > > >
> > > > Also, do we want to keep all past releases available on the main
> > > > download page ? Maybe we could have an separate archive page, and
> only
> > > > the latest release available in the main download page, this would
> > > > encourage people to always use the latest stable stuff ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/29/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Would [1] be a better format & content  for each download
page
> > > > of  than
> > > > > what we have today [2]?
> > > > > If yes, I'll start upgrading the pages.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) We currently use the same page to record download info for
> > > > technologies.
> > > > > For example, SCA Native and Java download pages are the same.
> > > > > It would be cleaner if we separate the pages. For example, a
Java
> > SCA
> > > > and a
> > > > > Native SCA download page which gets linked to from a common
> > > > > download page entry point [3]
> > > > > Does this seem reasonable?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Java+SCA+Download+Page
> > > > > [2]
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Downloads
> > > > > [3]
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Tuscany+Downloads
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Haleh
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > >
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