On 7/24/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree we could do things to improve our releases. Most ASF releases end up
having several RCs, its a natural part of the process, I'm not sure it
indicates any failing somewhere.

IMHO when you use the RC method, having multiple RCs does not indicate
a failing. it really indicates that committers are carefully vetting
the candidates.

There's already lots of doc about doing releases in the ASF - on the ASF
main dev pages and within the Incubator site etc. If there's omissions from
those existing guides we should get them updated. Tuscany having a 'formal
release guide' makes me nervous it would just be used as a stick to beat
people with when some issue is discovered. An issue with is that currently
making our releases is quite a manual process, fixing this would be more
worthwhile than writing more documentation (IMHO).

IMO there's a balance to be struck. each project develops it's own
house style for releases. recording this house style allows more
developers to act as release managers.

IMHO automation is difficult to perfect. recording the house style
helps to manage the automation process. though a worthy investment, it
is best to adopt an incremental approach. automate more but do not put
off automation or releases to wait for the other.

the incubator release guide is the next document on my personal hit
list. i'd like to see a menu of ways that releases are done at apache
allowing project to pick and choose their house style by combining a
number of well documentation alternatives. it'd be great if the
tuscany team would consider feeding any release documentation they
develop back into the release guide and create a style guide linked to
the details.

- robert

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