Danny Yoo wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Lobster wrote:
Idols subprocess didn't make connection Either Idle can't start or personal firewall is blocking the connection =========
Now I am getting the added message that the "socket connection is
refused" (recently updated to the latest Zone Alarm)
Hi Ed,
That's further evidence that suggests that Zone Alarm is fighting IDLE.
Let me see... here's a section of the IDLE documentation README that talks about this issue:
""" IDLE displays a new message upon startup: some "personal firewall" kinds of programs (for example, ZoneAlarm) open a dialog of their own when any program opens a socket. IDLE does use sockets, talking on the computer's internal loopback interface. This connection is not visible on any external interface and no data is sent to or received from the Internet. So, if you get such a dialog when opening IDLE, asking whether to let pythonw.exe talk to address 127.0.0.1, say yes, and rest assured no communication external to your machine is taking place. If you don't allow it, IDLE won't be able to start. """
Yes I did read that Danny - many thanks
Just to nail this issue down: try turning ZoneAlarm off, just for a moment, and then start up IDLE. (You can always turn ZoneAlarm back on after this experiment.) If you don't see any problems with IDLE, then it's almost certainly a ZoneAlarm vs. IDLE confrontation, and we can focus on that.
Good luck to you!
Turned off Zone Alarm and closed down IDLE on opening IDLE - I got the socket error message and the other error message - so not zone alarm (it seems)
- closing down IDLE and pressing ctrl alt and del I notice that 3 copies of pythonw are in memory
I closed these down and IDLE is working again
What I am going to do next is download the excellent Byte of Python tutorial and work offline with firefox and see what happens
- any other ideas welcome (the only other thing I have different in IDLE is I store my Python docs in my docs rather than the default - probably irrelevant but . . .)
Thank you very much for helping with this - it is holding me up and I am rearing to "go with the snake. . ."
:-)
Ed Jason (aka Dragon Shrimp - aka Lobster)
PS - had a look at Crimson Editor and PSpad - very good but not quite for me I rather like IDLE - it is specific - focussed
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