On 19 December 2013 00:11, Chris Acreman <cacre...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > "Can you be more specific about the 'Python screen' ?" -- Amit > "How are you running Python at the moment? Is it just the command line > interpreter? Or do you have some kind of GUI tool?" -- Alan > > The "Python Screen" is what opens up when I click the Python button on the > desktop. The book calls it a "console window, window that can display only > text." It is a command line interpreter, with no apparent GUI tools. The > book does have a chapter entitled "GUI Development: The Mad Lib," so I > assume it will include instructions for writing programs with GUIs. > > It is black with gray lettering. The first four lines of text are: > Python 3.3.0 (v3.3.0:bd8afb90ebf2, Sep 29 2012. 10:57:17) [MSC v.1600 64 > bit (AM > D64)] on win 32 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> > > The screen can be stretched vertically but not horizontally. It is 80 > columns wide.
There are a couple of different things going on here which is a little confusing so I'll try to explain. I apologise in advance if you already know all/most of this. The graphical window that you describe is called cmd.exe and it is the standard "terminal emulator" for Windows. Terminal emulators are also called "console windows", "terminal windows" or just "terminals". This particular one is sometimes called "the DOS prompt" or the "DOS box" - although both of those terms are inaccurate so I have to qualify my statement with this caveat to discourage pedants from correcting me. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_emulator Unfortunately MS hasn't put much development effort into this particular part of Windows (cmd.exe) over the last 10-15 years so that it is now massively inferior to most other terminal emulators. Every other operating system I have used (OSX, Linux etc.) ships with a significantly better terminal emulator then cmd.exe. Hence the fact that it is ugly, doesn't resize horizontally, doesn't handle cut and paste very well etc. The terminal emulator can be used to run many different programs. The types of programs that are designed to run in a terminal emulator are often known as "command-line programs" or "console applications". This is to be contrasted with the "graphical" or "GUI" applications that most computer users are familiar with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_application http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface In particular python.exe on Windows is a console application so when you run it it cmd.exe will open up to show you the output and allow you to type input. This is what happens when you click the Python button on your desktop. You can also run cmd.exe directly without Python. To do this you would push Win-R i.e. hold the "Windows key" and push the "R" key. This opens the "run" dialog. There if you type "cmd" and hit enter it will open cmd.exe. Then you should be able to run Python by typing "py" and hitting enter. Then you will be in the Python console and can type Python commands. To exit Python use the key combination Ctrl-Z. This way you can switch between typing commands into the cmd console or into the Python console. A Python script is a plain-text file with the .py extension that contains Python code. If you have such a file and it is saved in "C:\myfiles\myscript.py" then you can run it in cmd.exe without entering the Python console by typing "py C:\myfiles\myscript.py". This is how I would normally run my Python programs*. Here's an example of how it looks when I run cmd.exe, Change the Directory (cd) to where my Python script is and then run my Python script. O:\>q: Q:\>cd tempdir Q:\tempdir>dir Volume in drive Q has no label. Volume Serial Number is 18AB-2D00 Directory of Q:\tempdir 19/12/2013 09:42 <DIR> . 19/12/2013 09:42 <DIR> .. 19/12/2013 09:42 22 myscript.py 1 File(s) 22 bytes 2 Dir(s) 178,230,497,280 bytes free Q:\tempdir>py myscript.py Hello World! Now here's what happens if I just type "py" to enter the Python console: Q:\tempdir>py Python 2.7.5 (default, May 15 2013, 22:43:36) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win 32 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> print('Hello World!') Hello World! >>> [** Here I push Ctrl-Z to exit the Python console **] Q:\tempdir> So you don't need to use IDLE or anything like that if you don't want. You just need an editor that can edit plain-text files to write and save your Python scripts and then you can run them with cmd.exe. Again the standard plain-text editing program that ships with Windows (notepad) is absolutely terrible - but there are many others that you could install and use. The standard editor on the Windows systems where I work is called "notepad++" and is vastly better than notepad but it doesn't come with Windows so you need to install it yourself. http://notepad-plus-plus.org/ * Actually I don't use cmd.exe unless I really have to since it's such a frustratingly rubbish program. I always install a better terminal emulator called "Console2" to replace the graphical part of cmd.exe and "git-bash" which allows me to type bash-style commands instead of DOS-style commands. At this point my experience is somewhat closer to what you would get out of the box on most non-Windows operating systems. Oscar _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor