On 01Sep2014 11:13, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 09:12:24PM -0300, Juan Christian wrote:
I've been using PyCharm to code in Python but it seems a bit "overpowered"
for this task, and there are some annoying bugs. I used Sublime Text 2 in
the past, but it seems to be dead now (last update was JUN/2013), so I
don't really know any good options.
What do you guys use to code?
[...]
You don't say what operating system you're using. I use Linux, and as
far as I am concerned, the best IDE for Linux is Linux itself: [...]
http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/
http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/ide-culture-vs-unix-philosophy/
I'm mostly on OSX, but of course that is a UNIX platform as well:-) So my IDE
is somewhat like Steven's. BTW, there are many many discussions in the
python-list archives on the various development environments people use.
My IDE is:
- A good programmer's editor, ideally one that supports a tabbed
interface. I normally use kate (from KDE 3, not KDE 4) or geany, or
at a pinch kwrite although it's not tabbed.
I'm a vim user, and use it for everything (email, programming, any other plain
text editing). I've been using vi since, um, maybe 1985, and my fingers know
it. Of course, I use emacs editing keystrokes (a very limited subset of it,
anyway) in interactive shells, including the Python interactive prompt; it is
better in that scenario for me because it is modeless - vi is modal, which I
find a win for coding.
I don't use tabs or subwindows/panes in the editor. I do use tabs in the
terminal (and my editor runs in a pane in my terminal).
- A web browser, for looking up documentation and doing web searches.
Me too. And I find it very useful to have local copies of the Python doco on my
desktop; accessing a local copy is really fast and also works when offline. I
keep a local copy of the latest Python 2 and Python 3 doco to hand. This does
rely on the doco having a good page size choice; I like a "page" to be a
chapter. The Python doco does this well, a "page" per module. By contrast, the
PostgreSQL doco is extremely finely sliced and very irritating to browse.
I use tabs heavily in the web browser.
- A good tabbed terminal application. Konsole from KDE is my
preferred choice, but just about any one will do.
On OSX the winning choice is iTerm2; I use it exclusively. Tabs and also
subpanes. It has many good features.
In the terminal, I'll open anything up to half a dozen tabs. One for
running source control (git or hg) and other utilities, another for
running the application I'm writing and performing tests, and at least
one interactive Python session for trying out small snippets and looking
up interactive help.
I use a tab per dev environment. (So a tab for my main project, and I use
another tab for whichever of its branches I'm working in.)
Within each tab I usually split the tab into 3 vertical panes: an editor in the
middle )terminal running vim, for me) and a shell on either side. I open python
interactive prompts at need as opposed to Steven's always-open instance. On
occasions I split the vertical panes horizontally when I need an extra terminal
for something short term.
Just recently, I've customised my interactive Python with a powerful set
of tab completion commands, similar to that provided by IPython. While
typing, if I hit tab, it will try to complete the current variable,
function, module or file name. I don't know how I programmed without it
all these years :-)
I must try that sometime.
Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <c...@zip.com.au>
Baldrick: Sir, what shall we do if we stand on a mine?
Edmund: Well, Baldrick - I think the common practice is to jump several metres
into the air, and scatter yourself in a wide radius on the way down.
- _Blackadder_
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