At this point, Late Night and Tonight are names, not franchises. No one is
more inclined to tune into Tonight regardless of the host. There was little
resemblance to Leno Tonight and O'Brien Tonight and Fallon Tonight will be
even more different.
It doesn't matter if CBS calls their post-Letterman retirement show Late
Show or not. Most people tune in to Letterman, not Late Show. They need a
competent host to take over. You can't rely on the name.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:07 PM, M-D November <mdnovem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I always got the impression that Carson owned his show outright, and that
> Late Night was a co-production (Carson/NBC), with WWP added into the mix
> around '91 or so. NBC had to have some claim to ownership of Dave's Late
> Night, otherwise the whole IP issue following his move to CBS ("Viewer
> Mail"=="CBS Mailbag", "Larry 'Bud' Melman"==Calvert DeForest, etc.) would
> have been a non-issue.
>
> Also, IIRC, it was after Carson retired and Jay took over that an "NBC
> Studios" trademark started appearing on Tonight and Late Night (along with
> the Big Dog & Broadway Video vanity cards, of course), so NBC was asserting
> greater control over those properties, in an effort to reinforce their lock
> on the 'franchise'.
>
> By contrast, CBS has no franchise. They have Dave and Craig. If WWP
> continues to produce CBS late night, I would expect the naming conventions
> to stick for continuity reasons, but also because I'm sure Dave sees value
> in building a franchise in the spirit (if not the shadow) of the original
> Tonight Show legacy.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:38:56 AM UTC-4, JW wrote:
>>
>> > Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't SCG get first dibs/right of
>> first
>> > refusal at 11:35 per his most recent contract? (I know Craig has said
>> he
>> > doesn't WANT 11:35, but technically he's got the right to it.)
>>
>> My recollection is that's in case Dave is suddenly unable to do The
>> Late Show, not the orderly ascension we're discussing.
>>
>> Carson Productions produced The Tonight Show and Late Night right up
>> until Johnny retired. After that, Worldwide Pants (which had become a
>> co-producer) got Late Night, while NBC and Big Dog always produced
>> Jay's Tonight Show. I can't imagine The Late Show (and LLS) post-Dave
>> would be any different
>>
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