On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 3:36 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
> When Netflix resigned Sandler they said Sandler's content was their most > popular content. I don't think he is going anywhere any time soon. > Just goes to show, if you want to make jokes about a race, pick a group of people nearly wiped out by genocide, and there won’t be enough people to complain to Netflix about your racism. > > Not sent from an iPhone > On Apr 23, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for that link. >> >> I think the author is being a little naive however. I've just finished a >> new book by Ben Fritz called The Big Picture which is very much worth a >> read if you want to understand current Hollywood. As he and many others >> have noted, the middle has fallen out of the market place now. Studios no >> longer make $50-$80m movies because they put all their chips in juggernauts >> that ideally belong to cinematic universes. Yes, at the low end, a few >> independent pictures creep out. Indeed horror is something of an outlier, >> with sometimes very profitable series being made at low budgets. But just >> getting Tom Hanks or Brad Pitt in your film is no longer enough. >> >> So these films go to Netflix - and perhaps Amazon. If they weren't buying >> them, then I'm afraid that they wouldn't appear at all in cinemas. >> Especially outside of cities like New York, LA and London. Everyone feels >> much safer with the Star Wars or Avengers movie. As the article points out, >> major studios are releasing far fewer films altogether. >> >> In the UK Annihilation went straight to Netflix which was a real shame >> because I'm sure that film would have been stunning at the cinema. But I >> couldn't swear that it would have done massive box office even with that >> cast and a British director. (It was even partially shot just up the coast >> from where my parents live!). >> >> I think the marketing of Netflix movies is a struggle - they're not >> spending the cash a distributor would if they released the movies to >> theatres - with a few notable exceptions. Personally, I'd like to see a >> film reviews alongside that week's theatrical releases in newspapers. But >> although I might not recognise all the titles at the top of The Ringer's >> piece, I think it's fair to say that if you listed every film that had been >> in cinemas so far this year, there would be dozens that I couldn't honestly >> remember either. And many of them will have been, well, average. >> >> Both Kodachrome and Mercury 13 are on my Netflix list - but I need to >> catch up with Westworld first. I definitely want to see new films from Paul >> Greengrass and Alfonso Cuarón! I just caught a trailer for Anon by Andrew >> Niccol, and I'm curious because I still love Gattaca (It's direct to Sky in >> the UK, but I believe Netflix elsewhere). >> >> If Netflix does a better job than it has done in alerting me to these >> kinds of films, and spends less time telling me about Adam Sandler films >> that I'm not going to watch even drunk, then perhaps the model might work. >> While the company is haemorrhaging money and to my mind the jury's still >> out on whether they have a long-term sustainable business model, if their >> growth continues and they keep giving me things I want to see and, >> importantly, can direct me to them, then maybe it'll work. >> >> >> Adam >> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Just as there was a dot-com bubble in the 90s, I suspect we aren’t far >>> from an online media bubble, or at least a major restructuring of how >>> movies and TV are financed. Just as the unions seemed to be working out >>> fair (or fairer) compensation for DVDs, content distribution shifted to >>> downloads and streaming. So we have to go through it again. >>> >>> There is a finite number of venture capitalists who can throw gobs of >>> money at all of the companies like Netflix and Hulu, to get nothing in >>> return. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:28 AM Steve Timko < [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A recent surge in new movies added to the service has made Netflix the >>>> biggest producer of original films in America. But if most of them are >>>> completely ignored, does it matter how many the company makes? >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/4/20/17258960/netflix-movies-streaming-business >>>> >>>> Not sent from an iPhone >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. 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