Has Dennis Miller unleashed the jokes yet?
https://twitter.com/Eden_Eats/status/991751058752880640?s=19 Not sent from an iPhone On Apr 29, 2018, 2:50 PM, at 2:50 PM, "Kevin M." <[email protected]> wrote: >Aaaaaand Dennis Miller has weighed in... > >https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdmz/status/990505203043463168 > >To which TVs Frank replied > >https://mobile.twitter.com/frankconniff/status/990627200675311617 > > > >On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:55 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This is not a big deal, but it is the kind of little detail that >draws me >>> down the rabbit hole. Here are the two jokes: >>> >>> “I have to say I’m a little star-struck. I love you as Aunt Lydia in >‘The >>> Handmaid’s Tale.’ Mike Pence, if you haven’t seen it, you would love >it.” >>> (Joke 1) >>> >>> “I actually really like Sarah. I think she’s very resourceful. She >burns >>> facts and then she uses that ash to create a perfect smoky eye. Like >maybe >>> she’s born with it, maybe it’s lies. It’s probably lies.” (Joke 2) >>> >>> Neither of these is a slam on SHS’ appearance. Taken one at a time: >>> >>> Joke 1: There is a physical resemblance between the actress who >plays >>> Aunt Lydia in the Hulu series (she was on Colbert recently and is >just >>> delightful, so if I were SHS I would be happy if I were being >compared to >>> her in any way), but anyone familiar with the story knows that the >joke >>> here is all about Lydia’s function. Here is the character >description from >>> Sparks Notes, for those not familiar. I think the basis for the joke >is >>> obvious (and devastating, and it is one of Wolf’s best lines of the >night): >>> >>> *“Aunt Lydia* - The Aunts are the class of women assigned to >>> indoctrinate the Handmaids with the beliefs of the new society and >make >>> them accept their fates. Aunt Lydia works at the “Red Center,” the >>> re‑education center where Offred and other women go for instruction >before >>> becoming Handmaids. Although she appears only in Offred’s >flashbacks, Aunt >>> Lydia and her instructions haunt Offred in her daily life. Aunt >Lydia’s >>> slogans and maxims drum the ideology of the new society into heads >of the >>> women, until even those like Offred, women who do not truly believe >in the >>> ideology, hear Gilead’s words echoing in their heads.” >>> >>> Joke 2: This is a play on the old Maybelline ad tag line (“maybe >she’s >>> born with it, maybe its Maybelline”). I guess SHS has smoky eye >make-up (I >>> vaguely know that term from watching Project Runway, but I can only >guess >>> what it means), but the joke here clearly is about how much she >lies. I >>> don’t think this works very well as a joke, and is pretty typical of >Wolf’s >>> humor, which I do not find smart or elegant, but kind of lazy. This >is >>> basically just an excuse to yell real loud “Sarah Hucakabee Sanders >is a >>> liar!”, which is true, but not very funny - though it takes a >certain about >>> of course to do that when the woman is sitting 5 feet away from you. >>> >>> If people want to slam Wolf for not being very funny - fine >(probably >>> mostly true). If they want to slam her for taking liberal digs >against the >>> Trump administration, also fine (very true but, then, what do you >expect?). >>> But trying to gin up internet outrage over a female comic betraying >the >>> sisterhood by making jokes about another professional woman’s >appearence >>> is, in this case, bulshit. >>> >>> A better moral to draw from this and other recent similar events is >that >>> the tradition of roasting the President and other powerful figures >in this >>> way requires an underlying mutual respect, if not personal, than at >least >>> institutional and constitutional, which is lacking right now. This >was >>> already getting to be true in the W. Bush Administration, and would >have >>> been true had there been even B-List comics available during the >Obama >>> Administration. It is profoundly true now. Without a modicum of >mutual >>> respect, comic roasting just comes across as mean-spirited and >low-class, >>> and perhaps we would be better served calling at least a temporary >halt to >>> it. >>> >> >> The reason it comes across as more mean spirited than a traditional >roast >> is the focus of the roast refuses to participate. Traditionally, the >person >> being roasted gets the last word. Trump is too cowardly to lob >insults to >> anybody's face, so the dinner has become one-sided. If he attended, >he >> could speak out in person (at the risk of sounding old-school >sexist... >> that’s what a real man would do), but the coward knows he’d be >outnumbered >> and outwitted, so he makes up the pretense that the dinner is somehow >> beneath him (he puts ketchup on steak... no dinner is beneath him). >> >> As much as the topical humor isn’t for me, I recognize the value of >it in >> pop culture. Just because the bully won’t play in the sandbox is no >reason >> to dismantle the sandbox. >> >> >> >>> >>> https://youtu.be/2yShWRb7L8s >>> >>> >>> >https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2018/04/29/the-harshest-jokes-from-michelle-wolfs-correspondents-dinner-speech/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2e3d7e2012df >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 10:23 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am wondering why I am reading so much outrage by liberal white >women >>>>> that Wolf made fun of Huckabee’s looks. The maybelline joke was >not >>>>> particularly funny, but it was not a know on SHS appearance. I >thought the >>>>> Handmaidens Tale joke was better - both funnier and sharper - but >also not >>>>> a joke about looks. Am I missing a joke (don’t have the stomach to >>>>> rewatch)? And if I am missing a joke, why don’t the complainers >reference >>>>> it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Complainers gonna complain. The references to looks that I’ve seen >>>> complaints about were the smoky eye thing (which is actually a joke >about >>>> where she gets the makeup) and the comparison to the character on >Handmaids >>>> Tale (who some interpreted to be a comparison of the character >traits while >>>> others interpreted to be about how the character/actress looks). >>>> >>>> Huckabee Sanders is a bully who works for a bully (and all bullies >are >>>> secretly cowards). These bullies have not only physically mocked >people, >>>> but they’ve enacted and defended laws that discriminate against >people >>>> based on how they look. So even if the jokes are rightly construed >as >>>> insults on appearance, I cannot muster up any outrage over them. >>>> >>>> -- >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kevin M. 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