It sounds like the Presidential Debate Commission is going to change the rules.
'The commission said Wednesday the debate “made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues.”' https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-chris-wallace-campaigns-04ee2e8d54f456ee6cafdc5fe53a5d28 Of course, you change the rules and candidates can back out... On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 6:50 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wallace did reset Biden’s clock several times, but only to get him back > his original 2 minutes. > > The debate moderator has much less discretion than a K-12 teacher, or any > standard employee. All they can do is whatever the two campaigns agreed to > with the Commission. This was not an episode of Wallace’s Fox News Sunday, > where he would have had more discretion. > > As I say, the only thing he could have done beyond what he did was tell > Trump if he broke the rules he himself had agreed to one more time, he > (Walllace) was going to end the debate and walk off the stage. Perhaps he > should have, but no news person would like to make themselves the center of > the story, and it’s a judgment call if that net benefits Trump anyway. I > get why he didn’t do that. > > This is why I say the Commission needs to tell both campaigns that > remaining debates will only be held if moderator has the ability to enforce > rules already agreed to by turning off mikes. > > I will strongly dispute any attempt to spread blame for last night’s shit > show. This was not due to Fox News, the degradations of News by cable tv, > poor journalistic standards, three white old men, reliance on obsolete old > school media (all of which And more I have seen blamed). > > The blame for what happened last night is completely and exclusively on > Donald Trump. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:14 AM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 7:29 AM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> But what did he not do that you would have wanted him to do, that he >>> could have done? As I say, short of walking off the stage, I don’t think >>> there is anything. >>> >> >> As a former teacher, there are basic skills that can be used to get even >> the most recalcitrant child in line. As a former Hollywood flunkie, there >> are basic skills that can be used to coax even the most entitled prig to >> take direction. It isn’t that Trump does whatever he wants or says whatever >> he wants... he doesn’t. The one thing he wanted last night was to be the >> center of attention. >> >> California labor law is quite clear that all employees be given ten >> uninterrupted minutes of break time for every four hours worked. If I’m on >> my sixth minute of a break, and the boss asks me a work-related question, >> the clock is reset and I get ten minutes starting from whenever the boss is >> done talking to me. All Wallace had to do, the first time Trump interrupted >> Biden, was to reset Biden’s two minute clock. Give Biden more uninterrupted >> time. Make Biden the center of attention longer; Trump would have >> capitulated. >> >> The problem is not that Trump doesn’t play by the rules; it’s that nobody >> (especially the Democrats) makes him play by the rules. There were a dozen >> other different things Wallace could have done, and even a few things Biden >> could have done, but instead Trump was Trump. And America is all the worse >> because of it. >> >> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 7:19 AM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:54 AM Doug Eastick <east...@mcd.on.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I watched it. Actually the whole family sat down to watch it. Fifteen >>>>> minutes in, one left the room. 60 minutes in, two others left the room. >>>>> >>>>> Dana Bash of CNN called it a "shit show". >>>>> Indeed it was. >>>>> >>>>> Chris Wallace failed, badly, as well. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Wallace failed so badly that Mike Wallace also failed, and he’s >>>> been dead eight years >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed., Sep. 30, 2020, 12:38 a.m. Kevin M., <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I’m willing to entertain those still of the opinion that the debates >>>>>> are useful for undecided voters, or that they help raise awareness of >>>>>> issues or policy ideas. But I endured the entire debate tonight, so I’ve >>>>>> got to tell you, if you’re going to defend debates after tonight, you’d >>>>>> better come loaded for bear. Because whatever that goatf*ck was, it >>>>>> served >>>>>> no purpose; it wasn’t even good theater. It was like watching The View, >>>>>> if >>>>>> after watching The View I was then forced to vote for either Joy Behar or >>>>>> Maghan McCain. -- >>>>>> Kevin M. 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