Poynter's story. https://www.poynter.org/business-work/2023/chris-licht-is-out-at-cnn/
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023, 7:14 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I can’s decide if I should loathe or feel sorry for this guy. I guess > both. He was used badly by Zaslov and then dumped. But he was never more > than a Wambsgans, and deserves what he gets (which of course will include > millions of dollars). Meanwhile, it’s not like WBD is suddenly going to > decide to change directions and go strong on journalism. > > On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 5:45 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dylan Byers at Puck says Licht is out... >> >> >> https://twitter.com/PuckNews/status/1666423238610526211?t=KWposCVTqhGrVqPATD9brA&s=19 >> >> On Mon, 5 Jun 2023, 19:50 Tom Wolper, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It’s absurd to think that Licht could go back to the Late Show. Colbert >>> tried to be his own executive producer and it became clear to CBS that he >>> was in over his head. CBS sent Licht in to give the production some >>> structure and to relieve the pressure from Colbert. When Licht left for >>> CNN, the structure stayed and a different EP took over. However Licht would >>> leave CNN why would Colbert take him back? He would have to fire (or >>> demote) his current EP who hasn’t done anything wrong. And knowing >>> Colbert’s sensibilities, plus those of his staff and probably crew, Licht >>> would be toxic and unable to command any loyalty. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 11:34 AM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The question is if what seems to be happening happens and Licht is out, >>>> can he come crawling back to Colbert (WGA strike permitting) or is he >>>> truly done in broadcasting? >>>> >>>> As unlikely as it is, it could still happen. >>>> >>>> Mark Jeffries >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 8:29 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One of the Ex-CNN precincts heard from… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 9:18 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Very long (9000 words) and very long awaited. I found it was easy to >>>>>> get around the Atlantic paywall be accessing it through the many links on >>>>>> Twitter (is it always that easy to get around paywalls?). >>>>>> >>>>>> I am very surprised that Licht comes off so much worse than even I >>>>>> had previously seen him. I knew he was enthralled to his corporate >>>>>> overlords, but assumed he was also competent and perhaps even talented. >>>>>> Perhaps he is, but not in his current position, and he is lying either to >>>>>> everyone else or himself about what he is doing and why. >>>>>> >>>>>> He repeats the same analogy several times in the piece, trying to >>>>>> convey his sense of what it means to get more balance in CNN’s coverage: >>>>>> “His >>>>>> network would host people who like rain as well as people who don’t like >>>>>> rain. But, he said, CNN would not host people who deny that it’s raining >>>>>> when it is.” >>>>>> >>>>>> Licht seems clueless to the obvious contradiction here, since by >>>>>> putting Trump and his fluffers on, with little or no effective counter, >>>>>> to >>>>>> deny the election and justify their attempt to overthrown the >>>>>> Constitutional transfer of power, he is exactly hosting people who deny >>>>>> it >>>>>> is raining when it is. Licht may or may not be self deluded, but his >>>>>> bosses >>>>>> are clear eyed - they want CNN to be another conservative News voice. >>>>>> Period. Not more accurate or with more journalistic integrity, just more >>>>>> conservative. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I have been arguing for years, Licht is of course right that there >>>>>> were serious problems with Zucker’s CNN, but the problem was not that >>>>>> they >>>>>> were too liberal or ideological, but too personal. CNN scored through the >>>>>> Trump era by turning the news into a cult of personality, with so many of >>>>>> the anchors and reporters making the story about themselves. Cooper is >>>>>> not >>>>>> the most obnoxious, but he pioneered this approach to cable news a long >>>>>> time ago, reporting on war and disaster by telling us more about how it >>>>>> made him feel than what was actually happening. A little of this, in >>>>>> extremis, is gripping (the catch in Cronkite’s voice as he reports the >>>>>> death of a President). As a SOP, it is a disaster. >>>>>> >>>>>> The solution is not to make the staff more like Fox, but to train >>>>>> them to focus on the facts. Licht pays lip service to this, but in >>>>>> practice >>>>>> is only focused on questions like: “Do gun owning farmers in Kansas like >>>>>> our show?”. 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