Yikes! I was probably thinking Licht is more like Niven than Guinness…

On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 at 8:33 PM Paul Murray <[email protected]> wrote:

> > The description of Licht in the immediate aftermath of the Town Hall is
> pathetic, and almost makes you feel sorry for him. It reminds me of David
> Niven at then of *The Bridge on The River Kwai*, when he suddenly realizes
> what a colossal and dangerous asshole he has been (though Licht lacks the
> good grace to sacrifice himself to fix things).
>
> *cough* Alec Guinness *cough*
>
> > For me, Licht’s problem is that newsmakers have learned to game the
> system and weaponize their agendas. Interviews with politicians turn out to
> generate some heat and no light and politicians have learned that they can
> lie shamelessly and not pay any consequences. Trump specifically has no
> fear of television cameras and he can quickly read whether he needs the
> demeanor for a deposition or a rally and he can effortlessly adjust.
>
> Yep, another argument against live interviews. Of course, when ratings are
> your primary concern, "live" is the bright shiny object that cable news
> can't resist.
>
> And agreeing with the feedback, Licht probably shortened his runway with
> that article.
>
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:18:15 AM UTC-4 PGage wrote:
>
>> Errata: I was misled by a news report - I was able to copy and paste the
>> piece into a Word file, and it is more like 15,500 words, not 9,000.
>>
>> I think there is no question Trump is newsworthy, andI disagree with some
>> of my friends who argue that credible journalists should ignore him. But
>> Licht makes an ass of himself when he arrogantly asserts (as he dies in the
>> article, several times, prior to the Town Hall) that he doesn’t get
>> whatever one is so worried about, as he has figured out how to handle Trump
>> (he thought it was just to not overreact, and calmly confront him with
>> contrary facts when necessary). Again, this criminally distorts or
>> misunderstands the problem, both with Trump and with Zucker’s CNN.
>>
>> The  description of Licht in the immediate aftermath of the Town Hall is
>> pathetic, and almost makes you feel sorry for him. It reminds me of David
>> Niven at then of *The Bridge on The River Kwai*, when he suddenly realizes
>> what a colossal and dangerous asshole he has been (though Licht lacks the
>> good grace to sacrifice himself to fix things).
>>
>> I don’t have an easy answer to the Trump problem, but I think giving him
>> an audience of fanboys to play to live is not part of it. A public figure
>> whose behavior is unconstrained by shame regarding bad behavior or lies can
>> not be managed simply being fact checked, even by a more experienced
>> journalist. They should have had a more balanced audience, with questions
>> video recorded, and recorded all of Trump’s answers, and then edited it for
>> broadcast an hour or two later. With his record, if you  put him otherwise
>> unconstrained live on your air, you become partly responsible for the
>> damage his lies and misbehavior cause.
>>
>> And yes, if I had taken over CNN from Zaslov, the first think I would
>> have done was fire Lemon’s smug and performative, “it’s-all-about-me” ass.
>>
>> And, in case it has not already been noted here for the record, best
>> recording that David Leavy, a leading Zaslov-whisperer who no doubt will
>> continue to report directly to him, was appointed the COO at CNN the day
>> before the Atlantic pice was published, a move widely perceived as at best
>> an ominous vote of no-confidence in Licht by WBD:
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2023/06/david-leavy-cnn-worldwide-coo-1235398003/
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 at 1:56 PM Paul Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It's available in Apple News, for anyone with one of their devices.
>>> That's how I read it last night.
>>>
>>> As much as I loathe the man, interviewing Trump is unfortunately
>>> newsworthy. The town hall format only works when the subject is operating
>>> is good faith and the audience composition is somewhat representative of
>>> the population as a whole. Filling the audience with Trump supporters --
>>> *which Licht pushed for* -- was completely indefensible. As somebody famous
>>> tweeted, Will CNN be reporting it as a contribution in kind to the
>>> campaign? Not having people who have previously interviewed TFG provide
>>> advice to the less-experienced interviewer, just plain dumb.
>>>
>>> The author clearly spent a lot of time with Licht, and at one point in
>>> the article it becomes clear that Licht's personal trainer has more sense
>>> than he does, at least in some respects.
>>>
>>> Also noted: Both Colbert and Scarborough advised him not to take the
>>> job. And when the subject's biggest fan to appear in the article is Frank
>>> Luntz -- well, that says something. (Zaslov played cat and mouse, not
>>> wanting to go on the record, then agreeing to, then changing the terms --
>>> to which the author correctly said no.)
>>>
>>> I couldn't tell if Licht has lost all self-awareness, or is in
>>> overwhelming denial about how poorly this is going.
>>>
>>> On the positive side, I completely got his frustration with Don Lemon.
>>>
>>> He's doing what Zaslov and John Malone want, so even if he goes, the
>>> mission will continue under someone else.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:42:08 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, it isn't... the links must be shared by a $ubscriber to the
>>>> provider in question, through whichever social channel (or through an email
>>>> message, in my case, to b**j*****@ptd.net, figure it out) so that more
>>>> specific codes are part of the URL (this is also how the NYT handles them).
>>>> I can not go right to their tweetybox and open a story without seeing the 
>>>> *To
>>>> read the full story, start your free trial today* box at bottom-window
>>>> in the resultant page.
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> PGage, June 3rd, in part:
>>>>
>>>> Very long (9000 words) and very long awaited. I found it was easy to
>>>> get around the Atlantic paywall be accessing it through the many links on
>>>> Twitter (is it always that easy to get around paywalls?).
>>>>
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