Perhaps, but guilty of what? The article seems to suggest they have new evidence to support the original charge of involuntary manslaughter. Originally the focus was on whether Baldwin just cocked the hammer (as he claimed) or pulled the trigger. Early tests suggested the gun could have gone off without pulling the trigger, but now apparently new evidence indicates fir gun to have fired the trigger had to be pulled. None of that relates to negligence regarding safety protocols on set. Those issues seem to be the subject of civil litigation.
Sent from Gmail Mobile On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 at 12:02 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Again, if they have evidence that the decisions he made as producer (i.e. > disregarding safety policies) allowed a loaded gun to be placed in his > hands, then he is guilty. If not, then he isn’t. > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:58 AM Steve Timko <steveti...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Prosecutors seek a manslaughter charge against Baldwin. >> >> >> https://apnews.com/article/alec-baldwin-rust-set-shooting-halyna-hutchins-f337b3bdc267d30fef67bb7946d738e2 >> >> >> Prosecutors seeking to recharge Actor Alec Baldwin in fatal shooting on >> movie set >> >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:05 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It was always going to be a reach to make this a criminal act by >>> Baldwin. The AP story I read said that there was a chance the DA will >>> re-file, but it does feel like the original DA overcharged, and the case >>> has been shrinking ever since. >>> >>> A civil case against the production seems not just more likely to be >>> successful, but more likely to make an important difference in safety on >>> sets. The solution is not to convict every actor who fails to double check >>> their props, but to fine producers up the Wazoo for not enforcing proper >>> safety procedures. >>> >>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 3:10 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> One hopes that civil litigation can help sort out liability. I maintain >>>> that although Baldwin pulling the trigger was unintentional, his role as a >>>> producer who failed to uphold the safety protocols make him at fault. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:52 PM Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Charges against Baldwin were dropped today. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charges-alec-baldwin-dropped-fatal-rust-shooting-attorneys-say-rcna80722 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:00 AM Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Baldwin is at an age where lots and lots of people retire and like >>>>>> many of those people it might not be his choice. Hollywood can certainly >>>>>> get along without his services. >>>>>> >>>>>> The difference between Baldwin and Rittenhouse is intent. Baldwin did >>>>>> not aim his weapon or even pull the trigger with the intention of hurting >>>>>> anyone else. While the negligence might have been criminal it’s tough to >>>>>> convince a jury to deprive a person of their freedom for years because of >>>>>> an accident. >>>>>> >>>>>> I remember reading that 95% of criminal cases result in a plea deal. >>>>>> Prosecutors make up a maximal list of charges in order to negotiate them >>>>>> down. A high profile jury trial is going to be a toss up and if the >>>>>> prosecution can’t get Baldwin’s side to settle they will have to review >>>>>> the >>>>>> charges and figure out what they can convince a jury of, and it’s >>>>>> probably >>>>>> much less than the current charges. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 10:36 AM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe I am naive but I think Baldwin’s career is already over, >>>>>>> regardless of the outcome. He is at real legal jeopardy here, and the >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> thing that matters (for him) is limiting that jeopardy. I think his >>>>>>> legal >>>>>>> team has already done a good job for him, getting charges reduced and >>>>>>> getting a super-charged adversary removed from the prosecution. I also >>>>>>> think his lawyers were absolutely right on both issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 10:17 PM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Prolonging this trial (these trials) might be beneficial to Baldwin >>>>>>>> from a legal standpoint, but the bad press of this being the only thing >>>>>>>> anybody currently associates with Alec Baldwin isn’t going to be good >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> his career and image. He shot a couple of people. Granted, he’s not >>>>>>>> Kyle >>>>>>>> Rittenhouse, but he might as well be at this point. Heck, Rittenhouse’s >>>>>>>> lunatic right wing Nazi following keeps him financially secure, so he >>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>> be better off than Alec in the long term. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:55 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>>>>>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After convincing an L.A. judge to pause the civil case against >>>>>>>>> him, the criminal case is also on hold after Andrea Reed, the special >>>>>>>>> prosecutor whom also was elected to the New Mexico legislature, >>>>>>>>> stepped >>>>>>>>> away as the former following accusations of constitutional conflict >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> the Baldwin team... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2023/03/alec-baldwin-shooting-trial-paused-manslaughter-halyna-hutchins-1235282808/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2023/03/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-special-prosecutor-quits-halyna-hutchins-1235299652/ >>>>>>>>> (links) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> B >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Moi, Feb 9th: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Halyna Hutchins' parents and sister sue Baldwin, company and crew >>>>>>>>> for her wrongful death... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://variety.com/2023/film/news/halyna-hutchins-parents-lawsuit-sister-gloria-allred-1235518222/ >>>>>>>>> (link) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/d57747a9-f0e2-41df-8936-f58e9044fcaan%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/d57747a9-f0e2-41df-8936-f58e9044fcaan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Kevin M. 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